More to worry about

Started by TGJB, April 28, 2014, 07:57:09 AM

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TGJB

Someone who knows what he\'s seeing, and isn\'t prone to exaggeration, says they\'ve only seen one horse on the inside outwork the one outside. Not a Derby horse so name doesn\'t matter.
TGJB

miff

Torrential rains at CD today and maybe tomorrow. Surely track maintenance will be fussing with the surface this week.

CD Opening night played outside-ish, slightly negative to speed.Thinking Bayern raced against dynamics/path,so forgiving his ordinary looking performance.
miff

covelj70

Just watch Calvin on Friday and in the early races on Saturday

He knows when the rail is live and when it\'s dead

If he avoids the rail, it\'s for a reason and we have our answer!

that said, I disagree with whoever told you that.

Watch Commanding Curve\'s breeze on the HRTV website (they posted them for free this year which is really cool, I used to pay for it).

Perfect Title who is on the inside is under a tight hold to allow Commanding Curve to pass him in the stretch.  Commanding Curve was being asked for run while PT was under restraint with the rider essentially waiting for CC to move and then watch Perfect Title gallop way out past CC.  It was an awful breeze for Commanding Curve and he was on the outside.  No one could possibly watch that breeze and say the horse on the outside outworked the horse on the inside.

covelj70

Also, wasn\'t intense holiday on the outside of we miss Artie as well?

I am pretty sure he was.

IT outworked WMA by 10 lengths

Think whoever told you this was messing around with you JB because these were just off the top of my head

justwin

Jim,

You had it right in your first post. Jerry is saying that all of the outside horses are outworking the inside except for one. But boy did IH outwork WMA.

George

jerry

Mike Welsh in his clockers report from yesterday or the day before hinted that the rail might be a little deeper.

jimbo66

It makes sense.

I don\'t remember a year where so few horses had average to below average works over the track.  Really, who has worked well in the past week?  

Usually, we have the opposite, where almost all the horses are working well and it becomes hard to differentiate \"how well\".

When you combine that fact, with the way the track played opening night, you read the comments from people in the game like Pletcher and others talking about the track, and then you add in the HORRIFIC track record of the Churchill Downs track crew, you have to be concerned.  

Ignoring the way a track is playing and sticking with your predisposed opinions is a sure way to bankruptcy in this game.  (I am still smarting from playing all the \"brilliant\" horses on the Pro-Ride Breeders Cups and seeing them lose to Raven\'s Pass and other stamina type).

Can\'t CD ever get the track right?  Lucky for them the Parx track crew exists, otherwise the CD guys would be the absolute worst on the planet.  Parx has had a dead rail since TGJB was a teenager.......

covelj70

whoops, yes, thanks so much

appreciate the correction

metroj

Makes you wonder if General A Rod worked close to the rail last Wednesday, a photo on the DRF site taken by Barbara Livingston seemed to imply that he did.

TGJB

Jimbo-- I truly wish I could say Parx was around when I was a teenager.
TGJB

FrankD.

Keystone back then JB; they had a great race caller in Jack Lamar.

TGJB

Spent a fair amount of time there, with Friedman, Richie Schwartz...

We once did Keystone, then drove to Pen, stayed over and went to Delaware the next day.

Another time we had a big day and took a cab back from Philly.
TGJB

Edgorman


Boscar Obarra

The bus to Liberty Bell on a winters day. Like a trip to Lourdes.

 Pretty sure that was where I saw a horse named Acquitted  carry something like 145 lbs over a 1 1/2 or more and win by daylight in a Starter \'Cap.

phil23

This is looking bad.  

4/5 favourite, with nose lead on the turn, on the rail, just finished 5th...out of 5 in the 3rd.

Rail horse was caught in the 1st as well, as the favourite again, did hold for 2nd. He\'d looked clear at the 1/8th pole but faltered in late stretch to be caught by Rosie.

In the 2nd the 4:1 3rd choice was head and head for the lead, on the rail, with the 4.5:1 4th choice at the head of the stretch. He backed up, not just behind the winner (that 4th choice) but also behind a 23:1 shot to finish a awful 5th.