Short Priced Throwouts

[richiebee]

Apparently, Leroids frogs are sloughing, or peeling.

He will be reshod on Saturday with conventional shoes according to BF

[LasVegasHorseplayer]

Not to mention that she ran third in the 2004 Arc\' and by all accounts of those on the scene, probably would have won the race with a better trip.

I don\'t know where these clowns come away with the idea that \"she wasn\'t the best horse\" last year but that she simply \"got the best trip\".....Huh?

She was the best bet to win her repsective race on the entire card in last year\'s BC.......PERIOD!

She won under a hand ride like she was out for a morning gallop and I\'ll bet that her connections are still kicking themselves in the ass for not running in the BC turf after they saw how pathetic the \"big\" horses ran in that race.

She may not be the horse she was last year but she probably doesn\'t need to be to win this thing.

Will she be a dead nuts single on all of my serial bet tickets, like she was last year?...No!

Is she a horse that I am going to \"throw out\" just to show all the so called \"experts what a tough guy I am and how bold a stand I can make?....Of course not.

She is a horse who is a legitimate top contender to win the race, especially with JB picking up the mount. Respect should be afforded her, especially in the serials.

Of course you don\'t bet her to win at 6-5 but you don\'t beat yourself by being to stubborn to acknowledge her talents.

[jimbo66]

LasVegas Horseplayer,

You are probably on the wrong board.  This is the thorograph board.  Ouija Board didn\'t get the best figure last year in the race and doesn\'t have the fastest figs coming into this race.  Those of us that bet figs, realize she is a bet against as the favorite in a 14 horse field.  

If that makes me a \"clown\" in your book, I will live with it.

Good luck with your gambling, you will need it.

[HP]

You raise a good point, as my attitude on \"throwouts\" in general is a little different when it comes to pick 3\'s, etc.  I don\'t intend to do too much on this front, and I concentrate mostly on exactas and tris...  HP

[HP]

The downside of Wend may not be the off going.  I think the problem with Wend is she\'s coming in on short rest off a top, and stretching out a little to boot.  HP

[JAKE]

Wend is lightly raced and came into that last race off a 2 month layoff.

I don\'t think that the 20 day rest or the distance of 1 1/4 will be an issue.

[HP]

JAKE,

I see that too.  You could do worse at 12-1 in there I suppose.  HP

[NoCarolinaTony]

A mile is too short for her, so I am not worried about the stretchout. The softgoing as I\'ve heard on TVG is based on one outing in A/P. The going at keeland was soft despite how the track was listed that day.

NC Tony

NCT,

\"The softgoing as I\'ve heard on TVG is based on one outing in A/P.\"

That\'s true, but that race can\'t be viewed as a positive thing. The rain has me worried. That may go double because some comments were made about about the way she handled a soft turf in a recent workout.  

[jbelfior]

Mott has all but told you \"don\'t bet\" if turf is anything but good-firm for WEND.

Ditto O\'Brien for MONA LISA. The more I look for something in here, the more I end up thinking what a huge advantage WONDER AGAIN has at Belmont with the turf on the good-soft side.


Good Luck,
Joe B.

I think there may be some value leaving Henny Hughes out of the exotics. He  looks more like a sprinter to me. He ran well at 1M in the Champagne, but that pace was not as fast as it looks (it was fast, but it was wind aided) and I thought the track was carrying speed pretty well that day. Personally, I can\'t see how he improves off that effort while stretching out another 1/16th. I think someone will move forward past him.  

The one thing that he has going for him is that this race usually has a few cheap speedy sprinters in it and this one doesn\'t. There\'s plenty of speed to keep the pace honest (no one will loaf with First Samurai in the race), but he may get an easy enough pace to last for a piece. If there was more speed I\'d make a strong play against him being 1st or 2nd.

[davidrex]

     Very nice post L.V.gamgler
The difference between a handicapper and a gambler is truly shown in this piece
To all you throw-up/throw-out experts...READ HIS POST AGAIN!!!
PARTYpokerON!

[jbelfior]

A thanks to Delmar Deb for hooking us up with the Euro link.

Just an observation regarding AZAMOUR in the TURF. This guy has a completely different kick on firm....it\'s more confident and powerful. His kick on less than firm was not as strong.

A good to soft turf on Saturday may spell doom for a horse who will be around 3-1.



Good Luck,
Joe B.

[scavsiu8]

The trainer also stated the same thing in a DRF article that I just read. Except below.......

\"I think they are a good team of horses,\" Oxx said. \"Bago ran a good race in the Arc. Motivator was probably a little disappointing in the Arc. Shirocco is a fresh horse. He\'s improved a lot and he could improve a lot. He would like soft ground. Alkaased is a good horse. He\'ll be better suited to 1 1/2 miles.\"

Aside from the competition, Oxx is worried about the potential for wet weather for Azamour.

\"He doesn\'t particularly like soft ground,\" he said. \"We\'re hoping for a dry week. He\'s a very good horse and has been very consistent all his life. He\'s a courageous horse, and he\'s run one good one after another. His only disappointment was his last start.\"

[NoCarolinaTony]

JoeB,

I would like to see the article? Which web sit is that posted on?

NC Tony