Short Priced Throwouts

Started by HP, October 24, 2005, 08:21:13 AM

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richiebee

Intercontinental has one race in America on non firm turf.

She was beaten 11 lengths by Wonder Again at Sara 7/31/04 on a yielding course.

Good night, gents. Going to watch football.

NoCarolinaTony

Please refer back to my post about Domingueez and Jocks discusion at the Lexington Airport two weeks ago.

Remember Wend also broke very slow and spotted the feild a couple lenghts at the start in a mile race, and if you watch the run out on replay he blows by Intercontinental past the wire.

I\'m all over Wend in this race.

NC Tony

NoCarolinaTony

Richie,

Please watch the race on replay and watch for the chuncks of turf kicked up at KEE that weekend. I talked to 4 jockeys in the airport that night about the condition of the surface. TG has rated the rail dead becuase it was SOFT. Believe what you want. Also look at the DRF variant for what thats worth.

NC Tony

Michael D.

i see a fast pace, even for BC standards. richie makes a good point about the tabor factor. he certainly won\'t sacrafice the horse, but pomeroy\'s fastest race by far was right on a :21.3 and :43.4 pace. with lion tamer entered, why not send him? lifestyle should go. interesting horse by the way - got off to an amazing start last year, running two fast 7f races, hitting the 6f pole even faster. if this wasn\'t the BC, and i thought this guy could get loose, i would play him for a big move fwd. pace pressure might be his undoing though. weknow LITF is going, and atilla will be running at a :44 clip. given the pace scenario, i don\'t think LITF is worth the 6/5 he will go off at, and i will be keying a different horse. i think he is a great animal though, and he will be on about 1/3 of my pk4 tickets.

NoCarolinaTony

Michael,

I like Battle Won quite a bit in this one,along with Wildcat Heir, with Lion Tamer and Paradise underneath. LITF may be played as a saver in a P4.

NC Tony

Michael D.

Tony,
i think you will get a negative \"2\" out of BW, and dominguez will most likely save ground with him, regardless of post. looking at TP though, he ain\'t going any faster. no margin for error - dominguez has to rate off the speed perfectly, just like bailey did in \'01 with squirtle squirt.

NoCarolinaTony

My beliefe is typical winner of Sprint should be between a neg 2 and Neg 3. Do you think he can win? IF not him who else can Run a Neg or Better? I have only Pomeroy,Lion Tamer, Battle Won, LITF, Wildcat Heir and Paradise.

Am I missing anyone ?

NC Tony

bdhsheets

OB had a hairline fracture in that first race. In her return race in the Grp III, Frankie D. was gushing what a great horse he had ridden that day. Just a FWIW.
May they all come home safely!

bdhsheets

Take a closer look HP, she equalled a top set two yrs ago. Hasn\'t moved an inch forward...
May they all come home safely!

jimbo66

EZGoer,

Intercontinental is NOT the fastest horse.,  Wonder Again is.

She is around 13-1 now offshore.  I am not making the odds up.  She is definintely double digits.

I agree with you that she is bettable though.  She has run 2 and change a few times and will be on the lead.

For what it is worth, Wend and Wonder Again are on all my pick-4 tickets.  Then, Intercontinental and Film Maker on half of them.  

Ouija Board on none of them.  We\'ll see how that works out.

NoCarolinaTony

Jimbo,

I agree with you on this race in particular.I\'m in line with this one. How deep do you think we need to go in the other legs in this Pick 4? I like Sensation,Folklore,(75%) She Say\'s it Best and Knights Templar(25%)- First Sam/Henny Huges/ possibly include both Superfly& Sorcerers Stone in Juvenille / Wend & Wonder Again on 75% of the tickets and /Megagertz& Film Maker/ in FM Turf and the Sprint Im in with Wildcat Heir and Battle won on my primary tickets with Ellusive Jazz and Taste of Paradise on smaller ones. Are there any Single opportunities on the card?

I just need to decide how to play this combination to maximize return vs betting them as equals.

I may pare this down some more.

NC Tony

kev

Tony, I couldn\'t never single on a day like this, but I have two horses that made it easy for me, maybe to only play them and a back-up horse.

Azamour in the turf and Artie S. in the mile. I think they run their races come Sat. The distaff is the deepest I\'m going. Even though I don\'t like Ashado and thinking about about tossing Happy Ticket, there\'s three 3yr old\'s in that race who I\'ll add. In the Gold--Sweet S.--Yolanda--along with maybe 3 other\'s. Society S., S. Jane, and the sixth horse depends on her price could be Happy T.

jimbo66

My tickets will look similar to yours.  

In the Juvy Fillies, Sensation and Folklore will be on most tickets.  I will use Keenland Kat, Original Spin and She Says it Best on a few tickets.

I will only go two deep in the Juvy, splitting between First Samurai and Henny Hugles.

That is a chalky middle leg, but I am OK with that because neither Ouija Board or Lost in the Fog will be on any of my tickets.

I listed by F&&M Turf strategy already.

In the Sprint, Battle Won and Wildcat Heir on most tickets.  The spread tickets will have Lion Tamer, Pomeroy and Taste of Paradise.


NoCarolinaTony

I did forget Lion Tamer in the last leg. I feel I must include that one if the pace /post scenario develops. That one was closing well in last off that long layoff.

NC Tony

HP

\"Trainer Bobby Frankel had the front-running Leroidesanimaux break off a half-length in front of his mate and the pair went along as a team through easy splits before finishing up in a rousing 12.58 over the soft going. Lone caveat was that Leroidesanimaux worked with bar shoes in front.\"

Bar shoes?

HP