american pharoah...paddock behavior question

[louisvilleguy1111]

Far Right is not a G1 horse if he wins a G1 I give up the sport forever. That kicker was life and death to beat out Mr. Z at the wire, for second place even after Wayne has tried to literally kill that poor animal. If Far Right is your example of beating something, then my case gets stronger.

[Tavasco]

OK, I finally get your point and I agree. AP hasn\'t really beaten anyone of any significance in Arkansas. It is just that he beat them so easily and by so much.

Calculator looked promising. My apologies for nearly having a knee jerk ESPN broadcaster moment. Emotions can  be so volatile.

[toppled]

The Breeder\'s Cup was a key race with 5 next out winners and 4 Derby horses.  The horse who trounced them all was beaten by American Pharoah who also beat another pretty good horse in the Frontrunner-Sham winner Calculator.  

Maybe nobody showed up in Arkansas to face AP because they didn\'t want to go into a race they had no chance of winning.  Or they just didn\'t want to run on 3 weeks rest, which isn\'t nearly the problem everyone makes it out to be since in the last 10 years horses on 3 weeks rest or less have the following top 4 finishes: 2 wins, 3 2nds, 3 3rds and 3 4ths.

[louisvilleguy1111]

When trainers start thinking that they won\'t enter horses in million dollar races cause they think they can\'t win, pigs will fly!

[smalltimer]

No doubt your standards are higher than most.  

In two separate posts you infer that Baffert got his balls whacked, and then in this message you suggest that Bode also got his balls whacked.

I\'ve never actually had my balls whacked, but it does sound painful.  

Seriously dude, what difference should it make to you if hoards of people choose to put their money on AP?  They have a right to wager their opinions with our without your approval.

[louisvilleguy1111]

I just think the whole thing how people are acting like he is brillant already is being a bit over played is all. But point taken and I agree. Good luck to everyone this Derby.

[P-Dub]

louisvilleguy1111 Wrote:
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> I just think the whole thing how people are acting
> like he is brillant already is being a bit over
> played is all. But point taken and I agree. Good
> luck to everyone this Derby.

Sounds like people have different definitions of Brilliance.

[TGJB]

You couldn\'t leave it alone...

[Wrongly]

Jerry

Please post the early package so we can move on to discuss figures and patterns.

[TGJB]

Early next week. And oh yeah, that will provoke some dialogue.

[ajkreider]

I\'m with you on the AP hype, but who exactly has CD beaten?  Ami\'s Flatter is a solid horse, but was last seen losing to the top two in the Florida Derby by double digit legnths.  Speaking of all out, Carpe Diem was all out to beat Upstart, when that one was the only horse to finish after attending to the Juvy pace.  He did handle Mr. Z, but we know what you think of him.  Hey, Danzig Moon has a nice maiden win at GP.

Far right is as accomplished as anything CD beat this year.  If I\'m inclined to toss one of the favorite\'s, Carpe Diem is the one.

[bellsbendboy]

\"Lou Guy\"

Appreciate you coming strong and staunchly stating your position; you don\'t like American Pharoah!  At this point, to me this colt is pounds the best and most likely winner, but save that debate, a lot of moving parts two weeks out.

Your drive by shooting, aimed at horse trainers caught my attention and the reason for the post.  Perhaps 50% of trainers actually decide where to run. Owners/racing managers/advisors nowadays are having much more to say on where to enter (and most trainers do not mind passing that torch one bit), admittedly at the top end of the sport.

Your Arkansas Derby post is a bit of contradiction.   Factually, (nearly a hundred were nominated, yet eight ran)!  The evidence here indicates MANY trainers elected not to participate in this heat, perhaps many of them saw the Rebel!  bbb

[louisvilleguy1111]

I think Ocho Ocho Ocho and Diving Rod both have way more talent then anything Far Right has beaten. Not to mention the other two you talked about CD beating in your post. So saying Far Right beat more in his races then CD has is well plain silly.

[TGJB]

Okay. You guys know where you are, right? Who he beat? Here??

[P-Dub]

TGJB Wrote:
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> You couldn\'t leave it alone...


I was being serious.