joemama: I believe he was schooled in the gate at Churchill this AM.  Looked sweaty around the neck area.

Polamalu43: Washed out was the term I heard from many an onlooker.

boston: In the casinos there is a wager of which trainer will have the highest finisher.

Baffy -190
Pletch +165

Of course Pletch has four horses to Baffies two.

miff: \"Materiality looked swell from time he left barn to time he returned to it\"


...guess different eyes see different things.

joemama: He has the better horses also.

joemama: Miff,

Hey u know what they say about beauty.  Looked lathered up around the neck to me. Pretty sure it was materiality out there around 8:40 am. Stood in starting gate , then backed out and went back to stable area.

miff: DRF guy followed him all the way. People are going to get anal about irrelevant stuff,information overload time is upon us.

Only thing I\'ll do is wait for saddling/post parade before playing verticals in case total washouts show up. Never saw a more obvious derby winner than Barbaro post parading.

joemama: agreed.

joemama: I only saw it only computer screen so it must have been pretty bad to show up there.  Surely would have been most obvious with a close up high def camera or better yet in person.

miff: DRF:

Materiality might be biggest horse in Derby. Not as tall as Dortmund, but more substance to torso. Pletcher estimates he weighs 1300

ajkreider: Didn\'t have a super-impressive gallop today, apparently.

boston: Where did you hear this from?  Mike Welsch stated that the two most impressive horses on the track today were Danzig Moon and Materiality.

ajkreider: Ask, and ye shall receive

boston: Good info - Thanks.

T Severini: As Mike Watchmaker accurately stated, I\'ll let the first winner from Dubai beat me.

For me its no works on the track. That is negligence.

Questionable figures and company as well.

Theres too many good American Horses to even consider a goofball curve.

joemama Wrote:
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> 2) He has won twice going 1 1/8, something no one
> else in the field has done .
>
> Sans Mubtaahij.  He won twice at 1/1/8 according
> to pp.\'s.  Man was that name hard
> to spell.