Did anyone else notice this?  I just looked at the chart.  He was 6:1 just before the load...and he closed as the 4.2:1 fave!!!  Two full points, into literally the largest pool of the year, in that short a time.  That is just..well...hard to imagine.  And who was betting him?  He was a huge bet against here and across the street.  And the public would have already had all their cash in on him prior to the gate.  

Not suggesting anything untoward, just wondering who were the big betters unloading on him at the last.

MO: I was watching a race from Mountaineer last week. Horse is 27-1 as they load into the gate. He opens up a 5 length lead and viola!! He\'s 10-1 on the turn. Variables.....

miff: \"Not suggesting anything untoward, just wondering who were the big betters unloading on him at the last\"


Phil,

Baffy has huge bettors in his circle, guess it was them,they got burnt. Mike Smith also telling people in Cali during the week that Bode had walked back from the Arkansas Derby with great energy,he was right.

Mike

sighthound: I\'ll guess it was just the average pool dump at closing.  He was a deserving favorite.

MO: It would be better for the game and would draw more fans is you had fixed odds betting. Bet at 7-1, guaranteed payoff at 7-1. One less VARIABLE in a game full of VARIABLES to deal with.

plasticman: Must be nice to see the first quarter of the race before you bet. If i had that luxury, i\'d be hard to beat.

phil23: Miff,

Thanks for info.  Makes sense that Baffert would know some well healed folks.

JR: Mountaineer pool and derby pool nowhere near the same.

JR: That\'s just can\'t happen in parimutuel wagering.

P-Dub: Conditional wagering puts money in pools very late.

Topcat: MO Wrote:
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> It would be better for the game and would draw
> more fans is you had fixed odds betting. Bet at
> 7-1, guaranteed payoff at 7-1. One less VARIABLE
> in a game full of VARIABLES to deal with.



Ah, futures.   Ah, England.   Ah, BetFair.

JR: Futures are still moving targets up until the close of betting. Don\'t get what you mean by England and BetFair?

plasticman: Conditional on the bettor seeing the first 1/8th of a mile no doubt.

justwin: it took $2 million to drop the odds from 6-1 to 4-1. not sure why this money was all late and not placed earlier. sounds like there could some past post bets

basket7777: zayat stables  nough said