Quality Road has quarter crack

Started by Halo Fire, April 06, 2009, 10:23:33 AM

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covelj70

over the top effort from 2 year old or young 3 year old, something comes up....it just never fails.

such ashame, I absolutely loved this horse and he has great connections.

Brutal game.

Have no skin in the game on this one and this still makes me sick

MonmouthGuy

Just a question, does Pletcher\'s complaint about Gulfstream track conditions on Florida Derby day resonate more after this?

miff

Horses can pop a quarter at any time. Racing, training on any surface, hard,cuppy or anywhere in between.Can\'t imagine that his \'over the top\" fig had anything to do with this,a pure random occurrence. Horses at all levels pop quarters every day at every race track.

In any event, a huge knock 4 weeks out.

Mike
miff

Silver Charm

Might explain why they called an audible and moved from Palm Meadows for their Pre-Derby training to Belmont.

I have to say I agree with MonmouthGuy.

drbillym

Patch and go.  Will improve odds.

Rick B.

drbillym Wrote:
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> Patch and go.  Will improve odds.

Not to mention the chances that the thing will blow up on national TV.
 
Who was the last horse to win the Kentucky Derby with a bar shoe on?

drbillym

Rick B., your words are highly respected following your double contest win, and I enjoyed your story on how you did it, but when I practiced on standardbreds at Foxboro Raceway 30 years ago, we patched some cracks that resulted in no loss of training or racing.  We don\'t know how severe his crack is-hopefully nothing like Big Brown\'s which is a whole other story.  Need more info.  I remember all the hubbub about Lindy\'s Pride having sore feet/quarter crack 3 days before he won the Hambletonian.  Hoping the next few weeks reveal that it is not that serious and I cash at 6-1!

Rick B.

drbillym,

Your experience and knowledge in this matter far outweighs mine. My lack of knowledge regarding both the seriousness of the crack and how it should be treated is why my first thought was and is to err on the side of safety and protect the horse, maybe unnecessarily so.

I hope you are right and the crack is trivial and can be treated successfully in time for the horse to compete in the Ky. Derby with completely healthy feet...but I\'d be lying if I said that I wasn\'t more than a little put off by seeing Quality Road\'s foot problem reduced to an \"improved betting opportunity\"; without the underlying context of knowing your background in the game, my response -- as if you were just some heartless bettor who doesn\'t give a damn if horses fall over and die out on the track -- was ill-advised. I hope you\'ll accept my apology.
 
Thanks for taking the time to explain things in a cordial manner.

miff

Nice of them to keep the quarter crack quiet for 9 days.Guess those who just bet on QR in the last futures pool are delighted. Nice transparency in the racing game.


Mike
miff

Josephus

Agreed.  This is a question someone should put Steve Crist (who regularly chronicles his betting experiences), just what the hell are your track correspondents doing at their assigned tracks?  It seems we often only get reportage on horses who have been having \"problems\" after the race has been run, or in this case after the betting is over.  Why aren\'t they closely following the daily doings of the DERBY FAVORITE? And if these guys are betting, and we know they are, there is an conflict of interests issue here also.
Josephus

Silver Charm

I sure hope he gets his chance at the big dance. This is a family that has dedicated their lives to training and racing horses and now have one of the Big Horses for the Big Show.

They have always been honest, classy and never flashy.

Triple Crown training experience may not mean as much as it used to. See John Servis, Barclay Tagg, Trickie Ricky or Tim Ritchie.

Papa Jerkins can certainly be asked if there are any pointers to winning the Big One. But don\'t ask him for directions to CD or nearly any other non-NYRA tracks for that matter. Sky Beauty probably stayed in NY and toted 130 pounds or more, more than most horses run in a year nowadays when he easily could have shipped elsewhere.

But humility seems to be his style. And I bet it is Jimmy\'s also.

toppled

I had QR in pool 2, but I decided to hedge & box him with Dunkirk in the exacta in pool 3, because I think they\'re pretty close in talent.  If I knew about the quarter crack, my hedge would have been a win bet on Dunkirk instead of the exacta box.

TGJB

I don\'t understand taking 6-1 a month out on a horse that will be at least 4-1 in the race, since what happened is exactly what can happen (and I brought up with Jimbo the idea that QR specifically had to get there first). They can also draw post 20 (yeah, I know Big Brown did it).

I played nobody in the first 2 pools, 3 horses in the last one, because I saw some horses that looked like contenders that could go off significantly shorter on Derby day. One was Old Fashioned (he\'s likely to win the Aks Derby convincingly, which would probably mean he would go off 6-1 or so in the Derby), one was Charitable Man (doesn\'t figure to go unless he runs well in the Blue Grass, but if he does will be a lot less than 40-1 in the Derby), and the third was Regal Ransom (will be part of an entry in the Derby which will go off a good deal shorter than 40-1). Smaller bets on the last two.
TGJB

richiebee

Hey Sliver Crumb:

FOR THE LAST F-----G TIME, THE MAN SPELLS HIS NAME \"JERKENS\".

You can check it on daddy\'s plaque in the Hall of Fame.

Now go back and write us another rhapsody about Donekirk.