Suburban

[TGJB]

Speaking of which-- Roger (my partner in Graph racing) is in the Hollywood handicapping contest, and the photo for second in the third race just moved him from fifth to the lead at $27,9 (started with 7.5k). Think they ended up with 65 players, 10 go to Vegas.

[TonyP.]

The Suburban winner had a bettable line into the race, but is trained by a questionable trainer does that affect your opinion? Im confident that tricky will use any advantage to win. Isn\'t that the objective? to cash those nice tickets? Unless they demand zero tolerance on race day meds the chicanery will continue.

[Silver Charm]

You said 20-25% of the Pool after takeout. Below is from drf.com on the payout and pool. If I am reading this correctly all I can say is NICE FREAKIN HIT.

$2   Pick 4  (7-4-2-1)  4 Correct Paid $9,439.00  Pick 4  Pool $364,739

[TGJB]

20-25% after takeout.

It was a photo with serious ramifications.

[Silver Charm]

Send some of that luck of yours my way.

It has been a tough week.

Congrats!!

[fkach]

Beats place betting. ;-)

[mjellish]

Very Nice Score!  Congrats!

[jbelfior]

Jimbo/Michael D:



Jimbo ...you were right on with MM in the Suburban. Thanks to both of you I caught the Pick 3 (starting with a single on WESLEY...what a ride by Ramon) 20 times by including FG.  U.ncle S.uck took a little over $7K (the government is full of great handicappers) but you take what you get in this game!!


THANK YOU!!!



Good Luck,
Joe B.

[banditbeau]

TGJB - nice wager!  While interpreting the sheet numbers is certainly a skill, setting up the wagers and the savers you sketched might be more of a skill.  In particular, how you mentioned A)you thought the crowd was backing a slow horse in the 7th, and that you could beat the big favorite in the 8th, thus eliminating 90% of the competetion.  Thus the pick 4 wager, and the 3x2x4x2 format.  If you would, could you go into a bit more detail on how you set up the wager, (I used the winner half as much as the pick 4 in the 7th, used the winner 3 times as much in the pick 4\'s, etc.\"  I am not interested in the size of each wager, just trying to learn better how to construct them, and set up up wager savers to insure you for instance you do not have a scenario where - you have the $82 winner in the pick 4, with no other savers, or lose the photo in the 10th, and any of the myriad of ways to lose the wager.  It sounds like you had multiple ways set to at least attempt to break even, and if all things work out, make a major score.  Since most people are pretty fair at the handicapping part of the picture, but horrible at wager construction piece of the puzzle, I am just looking for idea\'s there.  If so thanks for the help - BB

[TGJB]

There were no hedges built into the pick 4. I was playing the races individually, and if I was going hedge I would have played late doubles with horses that could win the last I was not alive with. But until FK won there wasn\'t really serious money at stake, and by then it was too late to play doubles. I did play FK within the race, as I said before-- I wasn\'t going to have him win and then not cash the pick 4 and come up empty. Once I got to the last, I couldn\'t figure out a good hedge, so I just sat, watched, and lost five years of my life through the stretch.

The key thing (as I said in the betting guidelines in the Archives section of this site) is to examine what you like about the race, or sequence. I laid out the reasons why I bet the pick four-- the decision to play pick fours was the key decicion.

[shanahan]

I like to see people win.  Novices who bet colors or educated horseplayers like TGJB...still, there is something unseemly seeing this on the board where the product being sold - the analysis specifically - did not have a single winner in the pik 4...not a route I would take with my business, but you are the champ I guess.  Whether you or Alan or whoever did the analysis doesn\'t matter to your customers..it\'s all TGraph.




TGJB Wrote:
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> There were no hedges built into the pick 4. I was
> playing the races individually, and if I was going
> hedge I would have played late doubles with horses
> that could win the last I was not alive with. But
> until FK won there wasn\'t really serious money at
> stake, and by then it was too late to play
> doubles. I did play FK within the race, as I said
> before-- I wasn\'t going to have him win and then
> not cash the pick 4 and come up empty. Once I got
> to the last, I couldn\'t figure out a good hedge,
> so I just sat, watched, and lost five years of my
> life through the stretch.
>
> The key thing (as I said in the betting guidelines
> in the Archives section of this site) is to
> examine what you like about the race, or sequence.
> I laid out the reasons why I bet the pick four--
> the decision to play pick fours was the key
> decicion.

[drbillym]

Good point Shanahan-hope to see an answer from TG

[TGJB]

The answer is that I had no idea who Alan had put up when I made my post.