MO: There will be no Triple Crown winner this year. You don\'t win the Triple Crown unless you are based in New York. The\"exception\" was Affirmed who ran in NY as a 2 yo.

Silver Charm:

\"Wives Tales\", Mo

That\'s by Chaucer in case you didn\'t know.

fkach: >There will be no Triple Crown winner this year. You don\'t win the Triple Crown unless you are based in New York.<

You certainly can\'t win the Triple Crown if you are based in California and your main competitor is a NY Phipps horse. They will defintely groom the track to favor outside closers. ;-)

ronwar: basket777 Wrote:
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> a 3 year old pairing a -2 at this time of the year
> right   what planet do you live on.  we make our
> money on ones like this.

Why would it be unreasonable for a 3 year old to pair HIS top?  Especially if it what amounts to HIS 2 year old top.  I understand -2 is a fast number but, he ran it at 2 and got back to it after one race and glorified work out. Then on top of that, he was out galloping the day after running it!

I do not think we\'ve seen his very best yet.

Silver Charm: Was Victory Gallop owned by the Phipps?

I didn\'t know that.....

P-Dub: I think he was talking about Easy Goer. The only time he beat Sunday Silence is when he had things completely his own way.

fkach: >I think he was talking about Easy Goer. The only time he beat Sunday Silence is when he had things completely his own way.<

That\'s my story and I\'m sticking with it. ;-)

MO: Did VIctory Gallop win the Triple Crown? I didn\'t know that!

MO: I was working at Belmont that day. Even got P Val to autograph the program in anticipation....

NYRA told Charlie \"you can\'t work your horse over this track\".

And that\'s the way it was.......

MO: You can look it up!

Silver Charm: In Jerry\'s mind he did.

If Solis had only saved ground.

Silver Charm: I thought it was the No-Harthill jinx.

Com\'on Mo, you New York conspiracy theorists.

SoCalMan2: Cronkite\'s sign off was ....\"And that\'s the way it is....\"

Is, not was.

Not picking on you...just have noticed this a bunch of times by multiple posters and felt compelled to correct it.

magicnight: I love how this argument will last forever.

P-Dub, by \"completely his own way\" you mean ... what, exactly? 12 furlongs? How many lengths did SS lose by that day? Seem to remember a fella by the name of Whittingham saying something about EG \"being the real mile-and-a-half horse\".

Why do people always have to trash one or the other? I loved EG but that doesn\'t mean I have to disparage SS. On the contrary. I\'m happy that they were both fortunate enough to wind up in the best of barns and make it through their 3YO seasons OK. Had either one taken a wrong step anywhere along the road to CD the other would have been an easy triple crown winner. I\'m happier that we got the mixed, more compelling result.

There have been 11 TC winners. But how many racing rivalries have been anywheres near compelling as the four races between those two? We - and racing history - are both richer for the rivalry.

P-Dub: magicnight Wrote:
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> I love how this argument will last forever.

Argument??  I responded to a question. Sorry if it brings back painful memories for you.
>
> P-Dub, by \"completely his own way\" you mean ...
> what, exactly? 12 furlongs? How many lengths did
> SS lose by that day? Seem to remember a fella by
> the name of Whittingham saying something about EG
> \"being the real mile-and-a-half horse\".

His own way:
-He raced on his home track, a track that his main competition wasn\'t allowed to work over
-A racktrack unlike any other in the country. Wide, sweeping turns with an outside bias suited him perfectly. EG couldn\'t beat SS on equal footing. Not at Churchill, Pimlico, or Gulfstream (none of which were his home track).

Also, if you can find the quote where Whittingham actually said that...please post it.
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> Why do people always have to trash one or the
> other? I loved EG but that doesn\'t mean I have to
> disparage SS.

I didn\'t trash the horse. Unfortunately for him and his fans, he was second best to Sunday Silence...something that some people still have a hard time accepting.