bc question

Started by vired, June 24, 2019, 10:36:40 AM

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Rich Curtis

\"Good Luck\" to the BC on this one. If something happens, the blood is on THEIR Hands if something goes wrong....\"

This seems like a pretty narrow way to do \"blood on their hands\" math in horse racing.

johnnym

Why should it of been Moved?

I look at it as a really bad string of bad luck. Much like a gambler has.
Sorry if this sounds cold but in my world I have seen and witnessed enough to realize shit happens.

I also realize there have been NO answers to any questions that have been asked to the how and why.

A group of extremists had a temper tantrum, media got hold of it, the heart strings of America was being pulled and then everyone’s hero the government got involved.
New rules were put in place to make things safer and then.
 
The cherry on top  a hall of fame trainer gets expelled after following the new rules they implemented.

If the BCC was to relocate it the reason was not because of the bad luck.
It’s because of the nonsense going on out there.

I believe a bunch of rational people got together and made a rational decision

I hate to see any breakdown of any animal I’m a animal lover like the next guy, I also understand the dark side that occasional rears it’s ugly head.

If the BCC would of been relocated that would of been PETA version of a wet dream.

That’s funny Richie regard NYRA listening

richiebee

I can only answer one aspect of the above.

Focus. It was a bad decision by the Breeders Cup folks because the decision as to whether their event will be held has been to an extent taken out of their hands. No extremists, no politics, no conspiracy theories, and certainly none of the &$@!?! that you’ve seen happen in your life has much to do with it being, my opinion, a bad business decision.

johnnym

IF they relocated and a breakdown happened at CD then what?

As a whole the business is in trouble.

richiebee

Kentucky is a very Racing friendly place, to understate things. There is no provision that I’ve heard of in the Commonwealth of Kentucky which would allow a politician or a court to pull the plug on Racing.

The Racing business has been in trouble for a while, and shame on Racing for letting it get to the point where, like the BC people, they’ve lost to a degree control of their own destiny.


Fairmount1

If you are on a really bad string of luck, is it a good idea to keep pressing and pushing the envelope?  That\'s what the BC is doing.

The government can now SHUT IT DOWN in an instant if there is a safety concern in California.  One bad incident in October or two and let\'s see how this goes.  I don\'t want to see it but I\'m concerned.  And as Richiebee noted, don\'t ignore if there are problems at Del Mar.  

Like it or not, 30 horses have perished out there.    

I\'m all for the changes on the medication front as they have made but I don\'t trust the surface.  And how do the medication rules play out now?  Do BC entrants only get 5cc of Lasix on race day and NO anti-inflammatories?  Not sure I\'ve seen the answer to this one.  Curious if it affects some of the superstar trainers.  

If nothing else, this will be interesting.  We will find out if the BC chose poorly....or if they have chosen wisely.

albatross

Mr. Bee. I couldn’t agree with you more. A terrible business decision. I’m not schooled on the new CHRB ruling just signed by the governor. I know about the 10 days being brought to more like hours. If, by some horrible accident, the weekend prior to the BC, what can be done by the CHRB to close the track. I believe there are 4 or 5 members on the board. Let’s say 3 vote to close. Is that it? If that is even close to possible, it’s a bet the board shouldn’t make. Full disclosure. I believe that the terrible number of breakdowns was due to the rain and cool temps they haven’t seen in decades. Still, a bad bet. We shall see.

JimP

You nailed it. The risk is that the venue gets pulled out from under the BC at the last minute. With the way things have been going in California lately that is a real possibility. The first breakdown at SA will bring intense political pressure to close the track again. What will the BC board do? Postpone the BC? Cancel it outright for 2019? They have taken on a huge risk by staying at SA.

Rich Curtis

\"Do BC entrants only get 5cc of Lasix on race day and NO anti-inflammatories? Not sure I\'ve seen the answer to this one.\"

House rules, according to today\'s LA Times.

Rich Curtis

The Breeders\' Cup was a terrible idea from the beginning. It tracks almost perfectly with the decline of horse racing. Its very name reeks of fealty to sinister forces. A powerful case can be made for boycotting the damned thing even in the very best of circumstances. If one or two days of horse racing can be such a big deal, horse racing is a deal so small it is hardly worth discussing anyway.

kencbs

Does anyone know if Hollendorfer will be able to run horses in the BC?


skitimber

Friendly wager:

BC held in 2019, you donate $100 to a charity I choose.

BC not held in 2019, I donate $300 to a charity you choose.

No religion, politics nor pets!

Deal?

johnnym

Can we just enjoy a event that brings us all together?
Your just giving these PETA extremists a bigger voice.