How fast was it?

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

I passed the race Spa. Too many other opportunities with Pletch in \"jump up\" mode.

That said, though certain AGS was juiced, I\'m not sure the effort was that big a race. I tend to think not. There is a nice trend developing here for the Breeders Cup though.

On a civil note, I find it comical when the occasional cretin takes shots at me.  but the latest by the Clone in this thread is in very poor form. I\'d consider a permanent ban for that, but at a minimum that commentary has to be removed.

spa Wrote:
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> Chuckles,if AGS wins the big race,take a pill and
> go to bed early.........

[lfe2211]

alm Wrote:
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> Absolutely.
>
> It\'s ridiculous to claim drugs are keeping horses
> on the track, enabling them to race more or
> longer...anymore than cyclists\' use of drugs are
> making for bigger fields in races like the Tour
> d\'France.
>
> Drugs help horses win, period.  It would be a
> different story if they were legal and available
> equally throughout the business, but they are
> not.
>
> My horses never race or train on drugs and they\'ve
> had above average career starts.  They also have a
> trainer who cares for them the old fashioned way.
> In fact, most people who train horses are honest.
>
> Today the jockey said Any Given Saturday was a
> different horse since his race in the Derby.  That
> was the only honest thing connected with his
> performance.

Kudos to you alm and any of your colleagues who race drug free and truly care for their animals. What goes around, eventually will come around, Cheating always has a way of bubbling to the surface. Is it worth it? I think not.

If anabolic steroids (of which there are too many variants to count) have been the untestedable and/or untested for designer drug of choice by the \"30-40%\" supertrainers, many of their horses will likely be worthless at stud (as if they care). It would explain inexplicable \"bad\" performance when such a drug was withdrawn from a stake horse. It would also explain a lot of the deterioration in performance observed when switching to steroid-free barns.

In the human arena, Barry Bonds has/will have \"a\" meaningless record and the attendant disgrace and scorn it deserves. He may well eventually suffer from the long term health deterioration characteristic of anabolic steroid abuse. Was it worth it? I think not.

[davidrex]

The Clone has succeeded in writing the most tasteless comment I\'ve read on this board.
I can only assume this individual was either attacking CTMC,or,actually thought it had something to do with perverted humor.
Lord knows I\'ve had to retract my size 11 from my mouth a few times ,but I tend to suffer from not tasting well.