Sleeping with the enemy

Started by bdhsheets@hotmail.com, May 03, 2002, 05:02:48 AM

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MO

When I saw Perfect Drift so close to the pace I thought Eddie D had lost his mind. But after some reflection on PD\'s PP\'s, here\'s what I found:

races on Nov. 16  seven furlongs
almost wired the field with a 45and 4 half.

next start  wired the field but a slow 48 and 1 half mile.

next start - 6th in a field of 7 at the half mile which he got the half in a shade over 46 flat.

Now he goes TWO TURNS in January - he was 4th in a field of 10 at the half which he ran in 47 and 2.

Next start he goes a mile and a 16th, is 6th in a field of 8 at the half mile getting the half in 47 and 1.

Next start in the Spiral he is 5th in a field of 8 at the half mile getting the half in 47 flat.

In summary, in his route races, he gets a half in 47. Pace of the Derby was 47. It figures he was on the pace.

BUT - his running style is not speed, not closer but STALKER. A speed horse needs the lead or is within a length at the pace call.
Stalkers are 3 to 5 lengths out of it and closers are 6 or more behind.

Should the pace be 46 flat in the Preakness, he will be 5 lengths out of it. If the pace is 47, he\'ll be within 2 lengths.
If they go 45 flat, he will be struggling to keep up and will need the race to fall apart to win.

Humbley yours,

MO

NotAnOpenForum

Mike D,

You sound like you are getting a bit emotional so I\'m going to let up on you. I agree with Mark O\'Keefe, he would definitely be considered more of a stalker than a big-time closer - I was wrong to use that term. Does that make you feel better?

It is nice to see that someone else thought the same thing about Perfect Drift being so close to the pace, since he isn\'t a speed horse. I think most expected him to come from off the pace.

I\'m curious as to how you classify speed horses Mike D. Would you consider Saarland a speed horse since he was 2 lengths off 45 flat pace in the Gotham?

IMO it was a heady ride by Eddie D that put Perfect Drift closer to the pace.

HP

Looked like Delahoussaye was the only one reacting to what was going on. It\'s also possible he was the only one with any horse. In all this pace discussion, one thing that may be overlooked is that this was The Race Nobody Ran. After M D\'Oro they all stank up the joint big time. HP

tony1128

i don\'t really see that there was so much early speed in the race anyway budda scratched nothing inside of we was that fast early why not go to the lead .eddie d. sensed a slow pace and as jerry noted ,did not choke any real early foot was breaking far outside , frankel said his horse would rate where was all this pace i keep hearing of .i believe j\'burg was prepping for the met after a half i knew the race was over .why didn\'t anyone reach out for the services of p.valenzuela ,other than bailey he\'s the guy i would most want on my horse past problems and all

tony

tonyk

If war emblem didn\'t make the lead then D.Wayne would have won in even slower time

Tim B.

Just wondering, Jerry....

I heard that your Derby syndicate was spread as thin as guys having 1/17th share, costing them $100 and netting around $4800.  How many people split this synidcate, and how many shares did you keep?

TGJB

Both you and Alydar need to understand that irony is going to go over the head of a lot of people. Me, I\'m a genius, so I think that\'s pretty funny.

TGJB

NotAnOpenForum

And you think I underestimate the intelligence of the readers of this board?

Too funny - I believe you have to be the most inconsistent person I have ever come across. How about it Jer, is Tim B right? Were you really chasing guys for $20 bills?

HP, I thought it was pretty funny too - good job there lackey. I hope the numbers are dynamite this summer!

TGJB

Gracious- that\'s the word I was looking for.
While I do have incentive to let you continue to alienate people(for reasons I have made clear- business reasons), I\'ve started to get complaints(two via telephone since the Derby). So, for the last time: substantive posts(I\'ve given examples)only. The next purely partisan nonsense(or any other gratuitous unpleasantness)you spew gets you the honor of being only the second person ever banned from this site. An ill-conceived response to this post will do the trick.
This forum is open to Ragozin partisans, and I try to get the wild eyed zealots like yourself to post here so that potential customers can get a good idea of what Raggies are about, and what goes on in the field(at tracks)every day. But I\'m not going to let you take a crap in the middle of the living room and sit there playing with it. It disturbs the grown-ups, and they are paying customers.

TGJB