Rebel

[Silver Charm]

I agree on that price. With only a maiden win on the resume and also shipping more power to you if you had him.

Kinda late in the process to try and change his tactics so I expect this one to be sending again in the next 2.

[ringato3]

Mike

Re: Mor Spirit - think you mentioned in a post he was your early derby pick.  I don\'t see it.  Beat mostly sprinters and slow horses so far.  Looks to me to be a slow grinder with limited acceleration.   Yuck.   Not for me.  I love Baffert but prefer to see him training horses with natural speed, where he builds up their stamina and gets them to carry their brilliant speed.  If u think about his top horses, almost all had early or at least positional gas.  The old quarter horse guy likes speed.

Still time left.   As you say, the last round of preps are usually meaningful.  Unless of course a Pletcher horse wins the prep, in which case it is meaningless....

Rob

[Flighted Iron]

Regarding SBN : couldn\'t disagree more. Ugly is an understatement!


 Think you\'ve inflated how much Cupid gave up at the start. Slight swerve top of the lane inconsequential.After watching Afleet Alex everything else is ho-hum.


 He did show guts late and went out nicely.


  Of all the deep closers ( SBN, CW & Creator) CW went the best route however outran through lane. Not impressed. Creator was never stopped,but was a solid 4w throughout the turn( possibly more) and ran on through the lane. He\'s a contender.
SBN\'s second turn an absolute horror show. Encouraged with his action through the lane. This one will only appreciate the extra distance.

[miff]

Iron,

Re Cupid, have seen tons get beat after a break like that.After peeling thru layers of the splits for all three races at the distance, his race looks even better, faster than all other races early(under flank pressure)and finished closely as fast.Also noteworthy that those runners that chased Cupid early all imploded to finish far back.

SBN was stopped,steadied out badly, came with a decent run but it did not blow me away, a mulligan.

Rob,

Re Mor Spirit, have to see the SA Derby before evaluating him as he had an issue going into his last race, maybe was not his best. Have seen all his prior races and he was always more tactical than in his last.Also know he much prefers to be outside of horses as opposed to being pinned in like last.
See him as a sustained long winded type that displays wanting more ground,SA Derby should hint if he\'s fast enough to be a legit derby threat.

[atakante]

Are the last round of prep races more important than the 2nd to last? Does anyone have an opinion if Derby winners tend to be at peak in the likes of Florida, Louisiana, Santa Anita vs. FOY, Southwest, Rebel etc.?

[TGJB]

If you go to the Archives section you will find 20+ years of sheets for Derby fields. The short answer is not many winners came in off backward moves.

[Rich Curtis]

Cupid came from behind in his first three races. He broke his maiden from behind.

[Silver Charm]

I broke my maiden from behind also. Those first two races were 5.5 and 6f sprints which he didn\'t win. The mile maiden win he was 2nd for maybe a while against nothing. If they choose to rate in the Derby against better horses than he faced on Saturday and in a 20 horse field they will be looking for an idea if the horse can in this next one. I get your point and its something to consider. The San Felipe winner will also be sent....

[Flighted Iron]

Not seeing much consequence for Cupid\'s start in this race. Colt definitely has big time gas. Bottom side loaded speed types.This late in the game being that green more of a consequence.

Who the pacesetters were a factor that cannot be overlooked.

1.Spikes; way too slow coming in
2.Siding:confirmed in last 2 starts tends to slow down early.
3.Madtap: 2 races back big jump forward then jumps forward again. No real surprise he came up empty.
4.American Dubai: one of the many who have looked competitive who didn\'t pick their feet up.

[Niall]

Just wondering if the KY Derby exacta pool makes an allowance for 24/24? Cupid over Outlook up and down !!

[Flighted Iron]

What\'s 24/24 ?

[moosepalm]

Silver Charm Wrote:
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 The mile maiden win he was 2nd for maybe a
> while against nothing.


The maiden win was a mile and sixteenth, and the DRF running lane has him breaking badly with a bobbled start and the rest of their calls were 4-4-3-1-1 by 5 1/4.  The second maiden race was a 2nd place finish to Denman\'s Call who ran third in the San Vincente, but was a disappointing second as odds-on in a SA stake yesterday.

[Rich Curtis]

\"The mile maiden win he was 2nd for maybe a while against nothing.\"

Watch the race, Silver Charm.

[BitPlayer]

No.  If 24 wins, the exacta is filled out with the highest finishing non-24.

[Silver Charm]

I stand corrected. Thanks