Booo, JV picked Carpe Diem, I am stuck with Javier

[covelj70]

that\'s no good

[miff]

You have the better rider.

[covelj70]

I just can\'t get the image of that ride he gave Normandy Invasion out of my head.

He rode NI like he thought the wire was at the top of the stretch.

[Polamalu43]

JJ\'s dirt record at CD isn\'t stellar.

[covelj70]

and Mike Smith is now riding Far Right

Jeez, what an odd turn of events

[HP]

Come on.  It\'s like wanting Kareem and getting \"stuck\" with Wilt?  It\'s not a night and day difference is it?  Do you think JV has seen CDiem recently?  I don\'t know anything about how they do this.

[covelj70]

hah, this is a great line

JV has been in KY so he didn\'t work him this weekend but he certainly knows how good he was in the Fla Derby.

[miff]

FWIW Carpe Diem worked at Keeneland with John Velasquez 48ish big gallop out, TAP very pleased with work.

[joemama]

Johnny knows where his bread is buttered.

[Silver Charm]

This horse is more proven than Materiality and is sitting on a TOP in my opinion. Has been training in Kentucky for a month or will have by Derby Day. Unless he draws a brutal post this is where my money is going.

Materiality reminds me of Pulpit....

[joemama]

Pulpit never raced after the Derby.  Another enigma.

[Fairmount1]

Seize the Day Jim.

http://www.seizethederby.com/

Guess you won\'t be buying the hat?

[bellsbendboy]

Solid comparison...  Materiality n Pulpit.

Not sure what to make of the former,  at least for May 2nd.  Certainly, nothing wrong with playing an undefeated Grade One winner, at probable double digit odds.

Too much too soon?

As for Pulpit, he was bred to win the Derby ( not that every horse isn\'t) by Claiborne, as a son of A P Indy out of one of the best families in the stud book.  Also a sophomore before starting at Gulfstream, exhibiting top shelf talent, both went on to win Grades ones as Derby preps (the Blue Grass was a grade two for a few years ?) and in the case of Pulpit he sure looked the Derby winner on the turn before injuring a knee and never racing again.

From there Pulpit has been a terrific stallion with about three dozen sons standing including the freak stud Tapit. He is the grandsire of California Chrome and recently became a chef de race.

With that written, hard to think of Materiality in Pulpits class, though their race records to this point are very similar. Really top notch horses this year doesn\'t make it any easier!  He beat Upstart ( the biggest handicapping nightmare in Derby 2015)on the square and has worked lights out.    bbb

[ajkreider]

So, Upstart is Captain Bodgit?

[covelj70]

Silver.

Curious what gives you confidence he is sitting on a new top?

He would have to run a huge new top to be competitive for the win on the tgs. Half the field has run faster than him.

What makes us think that kind of big top is coming?