Mubtaahij to run without Lasix

mjellish · April 23, 2015, 04:02:21 PM

More than 20-1, with all the foreign money coming down on him?

No chance, unless he trains horribly. And even then...

Tavasco · April 23, 2015, 04:02:56 PM

Well unless the owner buys a win ticket!

HP · April 23, 2015, 04:14:50 PM

I\'m allowed to dream.

aceriley · April 23, 2015, 06:07:23 PM

Go to the 2008 BC Archive and scroll to page 135 to see how Eagle Mountain did shipping for de Kock in the Turf that year: https://www.thorograph.com/archive/files/bc2008.pdf

joemama · April 23, 2015, 09:54:49 PM

If my memory serves me right Eagle Mountain took 2nd. I remember since I bet him. Now I will look it up.

aceriley · April 23, 2015, 10:01:46 PM

Short answer- new top

richiebee · April 23, 2015, 10:35:18 PM

Ace:

Short question.... 3 or 4 point new top?

jack72906 · April 24, 2015, 05:38:34 AM

3.25 new top (3.25 to 0). Was off a year and the BC race was second off the layoff....

pizzalove · April 25, 2015, 12:34:01 PM

Here is the thing that bothers me about this horse. His time of 1:58 and change for a distance that is short of a mile and three sixteenths. Wonder if he was just going up against bad competition.

This is such a tough call for me.

ajkreider · April 25, 2015, 12:57:02 PM

It was run like a turf race. Look at the splits - slow early fast late. The issue is how far back will he be, and who does he have to get around, when thar big kick comes? That won\'t be Super Saver on the lead.

pizzalove · April 25, 2015, 01:11:38 PM

I would love to see the splits but I cant find them. can you post any you have? Also where are the splits taken? Is it every 400 meters?

ajkreider · April 25, 2015, 01:37:30 PM

http://www.drf.com/news/mubtaahij-dominates-uae-derby-kentucky]

Some are here. No run-up

hooper · April 25, 2015, 01:39:57 PM

Trakus info with splits for World Cup night. UAE Derby was race 4. http://www.dubaiworldcup.com/race/racing-info/trakus-chart

smalltimer · April 25, 2015, 02:57:11 PM

A couple weeks ago I watched the simulated \"Aerial View\" that you can click on.
From the 1600 Meter point, which is 300 meters from the finish line, this dude explodes like Big Brown running past Gayego in the Preakness.
No question in the Dubai race, Mub had run 1:39.61 which puts him probably 12-15 lengths off a \"normal Derby run mile.\"

I can give you the difference in fractions or tell you how to convert from meters to yards or yards to meters. If anyone is interested I can explain the difference in the Meydan course and CD in terms of run to the turn, lengths of stretch, % of banking on turns and straightaway, etc.

I\'ll put a noise sheet out detailing the last 10 Derby mile splits. Other than Bode and High Fly the mile time hasn\'t been that much different from one year to the other.

Of the last 10 Derby\'s, the winner of the race, at the mile marker, has been anywhere from Big Brown on the lead, to Mine that Bird who was 8 lengths off.

Good luck

HP · April 25, 2015, 04:09:02 PM

Article says \"faster than par\" and it was the second fastest time on this new surface, and if there is no run up that means that the clock is going to be slow vs. American times with run ups. I\'m good with TG figure/pattern. The last fig makes sense as I think he was on the rail quite a bit of the way around? Plus he wasn\'t that far back and I don\'t think he will be too far back here unless he gets a rotten post or bad out of the gate. The jock is pretty sharp. Bottom line is he needs a new top and the question is whether you believe he can do it. Let\'s see the tote!