Shared belief

Started by Dana666, September 27, 2014, 04:54:10 PM

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Dana666

One of the greatest performances I\'ve ever seen. At least four wide on both turns. He must have traveled 200 feet farther than Fed Biz. Incredible race horse. And Mike Smith taking a bad spill in the race before comes back; wow, he\'s some athlete. They deserve each other. Good luck to everyone else for running second in the BC this year.

KK4510

Sure looks like Baffert\'s instructions to Espinoza was keep Shared Belief outside of Sky Kingdom if you want to ride American Pharoah again!

Lost Cause

KK4510 Wrote:
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> Sure looks like Baffert\'s instructions to Espinoza
> was keep Shared Belief outside of Sky Kingdom if
> you want to ride American Pharoah again!

people are killing Espinoza but he has to follow trainer orders and the plan nearly worked..good solid plan to me..

Dana666

Yeah, really, it almost worked. Never seen a horse go so wide and recover. There was also a huge inside speed bias to contend with, so Baffert had a good plan.

Fairmount1

I\'m pretty specific and pointed about my opinions on specific horses when posting on the board.

After the Cash Call Futurity, I was convinced Shared Belief was an unbelievable horse but with-held posting here my conviction he would win the Derby.  He has been unbelievable.  That race today was special.

For all the Mike Smith haters....how about some of the horses he has had.....Royal Delta, Zenyatta, Shared Belief....among many others....I want Shared Belief to get it done in the BC.  I almost never cheer for the favorite.  With an older division that has went to hell in a handbasket, I\'m rooting for a 3yo champion/BC Classic winner to renew my Belief in the game....who will be at SA....I should be and would love to meet a few TG-enerates as Richiebee describes us...  

As for Jcovello, I don\'t feel bad for the guy.....But his horse ran his f&%*$( guts out today.  I posted about him after his Churchill run for Catalano, recovers as jim describes, and has become monsterous.  I bet Vyjack all summer til today and was not happy with the result when I was all In on River ROcks.  As another posted, I would have threw up if Dad\'s Cap won his race.....

EDIT:  And on two different interviews, Smith said this was a \"hard race\" or a \"hard, hard race.\"  Take it FWIW

belmont3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmg5pOSBEEEsure

Hopefully the link works.
A few years back this race came up at one of the Saratoga seminars

Enjoy.

Bob

alydar61

I just watched the LA Times raw feed on youtube. Unreal performance!

Fairmount1

No wayyyy.  His trainer died earlier this year.  Wow.....

Before my time and awesome.  Lac Ouimet, an also ran in that race, was one of the first sires I started to follow in Illinois as a sire to watch for the Statebred races.  

To the board, keep posting the historical stuff before my time....

Lost Cause

Jockey that day was Cordero...notice the right whip to the face in the stretch to get him back on track..

miff

Shared Belief 101 Beyer....Tonalist 106 Beyer....okie dokie!
miff

Dana666

According to TRAKUS Shared Belief traveled 66 feet farther than the winner.

miff

yes, app 7.75 lengths more according to one measuring stick.
miff

Fairmount1

7.75 lengths...

Which is about 12 Beyer points at 1 1/8 miles.

Rich Curtis

\"There was also a huge inside speed bias to contend with\"

If so, horses all day long were doing a hell of a job of contending with it.

analizethis

No doubt a great performance on Saturday.

As to the Classic, I think what is key is that the gelding has limited bottom (7 lifetime starts), is coming off a big top (I would guess a -2 TG), may not have liked the track (post-race trainer quote) and looked like one tired runner after the gallop out.

All that tells me that he will a prime bounce candidate on November 1, which is one thing he has in his favor (35 days to recover).