Chrome Can

[joemama]

Borel was just getting even with Castellano for the stuff that went down in the breeders cup a few years ago.

[smalltimer]

Mike, did you read that about this race or just making an assumption?

[miff]

Small,

If you mean GAR getting stopped,you can\'t miss it if you just follow him all the way approaching the far turn.


Mike

[smalltimer]

But where do you get Thomas suggesting that SI beats Rod or vise versa?

[miff]

\"According to the Herd Whisperer, ARod was just going to join up with Social Inclusion and buddy with him to the wire without passing...which he did anyway\"

[slewzapper]

FWIW, here is the lead-in, and conclusion, from Kerry Thomas\'s Derby analysis on the General:

\"With four victories and three seconds in seven lifetime starts, General a Rod is a very good equine athlete. But almost every year we
bestow at least one of the Derby horses with the dreaded "buddy up" label. General a Rod is one of those horses...

...In the stretch of the Besilu Florida Derby (G1), there was a point where Wildcat Red broke his focus from General a Rod and
transferred it to the looming challenge on the rail from Constitution. Those two colts hooked up in a fierce space battle. General a Rod
had an opportunity there to advance on a pair of horses locked in battle. Instead of going forward, General a Rod drifted laterally. This
is not a natural leader.
General a Rod's energy burn is low, and that helps him distance-wise, but in order to win the Derby he will need to develop a killer
instinct that he has not yet shown. There will be plenty of high-dynamic horses for him to attach to in this field. We think he is going to
be looking for a buddy in the Derby, and that is rarely the path to the winner's circle.\"

Maybe credible, maybe not. Lots of good horses run up the track in the TC, for seemingly inexplicable reasons. I considered this a negative despite the horse\'s competitive figures (earned by running along, not up to, competitive horses) - he checked all the boxes pre-Derby, no? Reasonable play for underneath in these races given the expected trips (taken off the pace), but not for the win.

[TGJB]

Please. Meanwhile, back on earth...

[wrongway]

Thank you Jerry

[P-Dub]

TGJB Wrote:
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> Please. Meanwhile, back on earth...


Why do you say this Jerry??

Horses are machines?

You\'re better than that.  Why the need to discredit a guy that has a better Derby record than many using your product??

[TGJB]

You sure of that? The Dosage guys used to make some amazing claims. No reason it would work on the TC and not the 5th at Suffolk.

[jbelfior]

Not sure what race you were watching. Ring Weekend was making a better move and was stopped just as badly. Neither one was running in the money.
General A-Rod finished right about where he was supposed to. The horse is way over the top....had to be whipped out of the gate to get position.
He\'ll go in the Belmont and burn more money.

Good Luck,
Joe B

[jbelfior]

Jimbo:
Toss SI in the Belmont at your own peril. Not a bad effort by a lightly raced 3 yo who had not raced in 7 weeks and missed a prep and training. Now he\'s had his prep.

Good Luck,
Joe B

[mjellish]

I wouldn\'t go anywhere near SI in the Belmont, but I don\'t think he will be in the race anyway.  He\'s a miler IMO.  No shot at 12 furlongs.

People will be playing Commanding Curve in the Belmont if he makes it to the race.  Training really well, but I don\'t think he is a Belmont colt either.

A colt like Ride on Curlin or General A-Rod more the Belmont type IMO.  Grinder sort with a bit of tactical speed.  Although if I owned General A-Rod he would get 30 days off right now and be pointed for the late summer stakes races.

Can\'t take anything away for winner Chrome, again.  Very smart ride by the Jock.  Broke well, moved out to the 5 path, let the speed sort itself out and assumed outside stalking trip, again.  Heard lot\'s being said about how Chrome was not all out and could have went around again, but I don\'t agree.  I think that\'s about as fast as he can finish and it was plenty fast enough anyway.  

I keyed ROC and SI in 1st & 2nd, 1st and 3rd, and my two large bet tickets had Chrome off the board.  Used Kid Cruz and the Filly stronger than the rest of the field with my top 2.  Had no tickets with Chrome on top so didn\'t cash anything on Preakness.  Would still play it the same way all over again, but hats off to the winner, again.  I don\'t see how anyone can possibly take anything away from him as he makes his trip and beats them all.

With that being said, and maybe I\'m just stubborn, but I am still hoping to go All In against Chrome winning the Belmont.  Although I think I am done hoping someone will get it and try to box him in and make him win with something other than an outside stalking or front running trip.

[vagrant]

With all due respect, on earth, General a Rod runs exactly as Thomas described. He\'s not real keen on passing horses. The further in class he rises, the more pronounced this bad habit becomes.

The filly didn\'t shut him off yesterday. There was a hole between her and Ring Weekend, but he didn\'t attack it when it was open. She drifted into his path a little thereafter, but that\'s just horse racing.

[big18741]

MJ

What did you like about ROC going into yesterday?
Training well?