Jerry Brown vs. Jon Hardoon- Saratoga Edition

high roller · August 11, 2013, 05:00:00 PM

Jerry Brown vs. Jon Hardoon- Saratoga Edition

Jon Hardoon of Rags had 43 people at his seminar Saturday - I was told Jerry had 7 people - What\'s up with that?

Bet Twice · August 11, 2013, 05:30:26 PM

It\'s beyond me why Jerry doesn\'t ban you from this board. You offer nothing insightful and only come on to bash people. Is your life that empty that you can find nothing better to do than go on message boards for services you obviously don\'t use or appreciate and take cheap shots? Get a life....

high roller · August 11, 2013, 07:04:31 PM

Hey Bet Twice - I guess you must be the self-appointed minion that runs interference or acts as a shill.

Rick B. · August 11, 2013, 07:25:12 PM

high roller Wrote:
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> Hey Bet Twice - I guess you must be the
> self-appointed minion that runs interference or
> acts as a shill.

What is it you want here, pal -- a pissing contest?

Hardoon had more attendees today? BFD. I\'ve been tracking
his picks -- along with about a dozen other public
handicappers -- for about two years on the Thoroughbred
LA radio program, and frankly, he\'s terrible.

So he probably busted out a bunch of guys today. Some
\"victory\".

Flighted Iron · August 11, 2013, 10:30:57 PM

Actually his point of interference is quite relative. Sounds to me either you\'re
challenging the host or calling his product inferior? What is your interference?
If it\'s yhe latter( i hope), I\'ll use Thorograph and you can choose whatever and
we\'ll handicap any card for 1k. Here\'s the catch though. After the final results
of crunching stats let\'s say we armwrestle for the thousand? Laurel Park dining
room has good seating and excellent tables. Please don\'t take it the wrong way.
I gamble .

mjs

Bet Twice · August 12, 2013, 01:18:45 AM

high roller Wrote:
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> Hey Bet Twice - I guess you must be the
> self-appointed minion that runs interference or
> acts as a shill.

No, actually, just a human being who enjoys using their product on occasion and reads the board to gain insight from those with a different perspective and more experience - I\'ve never actually met or spoken to anyone involved. Can\'t help but notice what a slimeball you are with nothing but venom to spew. Constantly attacking others on the board (Covello, TGJB) for no apparent reason with nothing positive to add. I\'ll go back to the fact that you must have an extremely empty life to have nothing better to do with your time. I kind of feel sorry for you...

richiebee · August 12, 2013, 01:43:33 AM

All hail High Troller!

Man has got so much going on in his life that he is monitoring attendance at
handicapping seminars.

But lets talk about ME. Its been more than 2 years, and I am still waiting for
your first post that is either relevant or entertaining.

rezlegal · August 12, 2013, 04:21:09 AM

HR-I have been a Tgraph user from early on and in the interest of full disclosure a friend of Jerry\'s. Let me suggest a more scientific approach to determining the merits of the respective products. With 3 weeks left in the meet, buy both products everyday ( with an email nickname like High Roller should be no problem for you). And when the meet is over let us all know how many times either product was clearly way off, I.e. having numbers or a pattern that made it impossible to consider betting a horse that won at decent odds. I am not talking about subtle differences in numbers or patterns- but those with the benefit of hindsight that were just plain wrong. I spend a a fair amount of time in clubhouse section C with friends- good handicappers- who are committed Ragozin users and we often compare numbers before and after a race. I know the answer. Give it a shot and then report back.

barn rabbit · August 12, 2013, 12:56:54 PM

I\'ll do that right now. news at 11.

barn rabbit · August 12, 2013, 12:58:02 PM

oh. for saturday.

TGJB · August 12, 2013, 01:10:30 PM

Every once in a while we have these stretches on the board (like Derby week this year), but at least not as bad as when we first started this thing.

As far as I know Miff is the only one doing any serious comparisons, and is one of the few with no skin in the game.

barn rabbit · August 12, 2013, 01:26:08 PM

whoa.. you did not just cal a paying customer a putz with no skin in the game .. did you??

TGJB · August 12, 2013, 01:30:15 PM

Rabbit-- First of all I just edited it, second of all I had no idea whether you were a paying customer or not, thought you were HR (who we blocked) posting under another name. By skin in the game I meant an allegiance to either side.

Rez, you have a much rosier view of humanity than I thought if you think there was any chance Roller was going to do a comparison and report back.

rezlegal · August 12, 2013, 01:34:31 PM

Jerry- that was the point- all noise and bluster, no substance ( and I do have a rosier view of humanity than you--except when I litigate)

barn rabbit · August 12, 2013, 01:52:03 PM

alright, cool dude. here\'s my 1st race comparison. @ sar sat. thought tug of war was a no way on rags. looked much faster on tg\'s. winner was obvious on both. and I thought the 2nd place horse was a definite use on tg\'s. but I went with Intermix based on the sire profile.