Dark Cove

Started by Tavasco, April 26, 2013, 02:53:50 PM

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Tavasco

KEE 9th 4/26/2013-Elkhorn

I\'m not looking at the sheets for this race but will someone who figured this one out, clue me in. Or do I have to wait till tomorrow to get the analysis to see once again how sharp TG is or....data anomaly

To the simple minds, horse cannot beat 50K claimers @GP, rest him, add Rosario magic (which doesn\'t make them run faster just longer) come back in G2  @ 1.5m against good field and ROMP at Maker discounted 8/1.

Who is Rosario\'s agent - wow!

TGJB

You\'re looking at the wrong part of the program. Rosario\'s riding great but he rode him the last two times as well. We\'ll see what the figure is but I\'m pretty sure he just ran a wee bit faster for Maker at Keeneland today to blow that field away than in his previous starts. At age six.

But Maker\'s not using something because they would have caught him.
TGJB

ColonelShillito

Not that I\'m defending anybody, but Ioya Bigtime went out and set pedestrian fractions of :26, :52 and inexplicably stopped at the top of the stretch.  The top 4 were pretty much running 2-3-4-5 all of the way around the course. All of the other logical contenders on paper were far back and all ran an X.

I\'ve seen many runnings of the Elkhorn Stakes over the years and this wasn\'t necessarily the strongest renewal of the race.  

Perhaps, all of the jocks on the major contenders were a bit too arrogant early on, keeping their horses reserved, while keeping in mind the results of the previous day\'s Bewitch S. where ALL of the superfecta came from far back early.

I did not use the horse at all.

Still makes you wonder.....

Breakage

Of course Maker is using something.

Cannot compete unless one is using something.

To believe otherwise is sheer folly.

Fairmount1

Who won the race after the Elkhorn?  The final race of the meeting?

That\'s a rhetorical question.....

Tavasco

Upon closer inspection I see he also ran well when marathoning in the John\'s Call back in 2011. Thanks.

TGJB

If he had won a blanket finish, which is the way the race figured, that would be one thing. But that ain\'t what happened. He jumped out of his skin relative to what he was doing in Florida.
TGJB

mbeychok

I know it takes time and I\'m not asking for it today or next week but it sure would be interesting to see every Maker horse at KEE and the figures they ran compared to previous races. I saw quite a few and all i can say is Wow. some serious jump ups were evident. might be the most dominant training feat ever. Certainly the most dominant owner feat ever.

michael

TGJB

Remind me after the Derby.
TGJB

plasticman

Dark Cove is a great looking  horse with a powerful stride, i bet on him on March 23 of last year at GP and he went off 6-5, got a great trip, and couldnt perform and couldnt hit the board.

So today, i remember that race and think \"is he really going to beat these if he can\'t hit the board at Gulf on March 23, 2012\"?

Destroyed the field going a mile and a half, he might have won by 20 if the race was a mile and 5/8ths.

Hard to figure.

bellsbendboy

Did not bet this race nor purchase the Tg data but will surmise that Dark Cove either paired or moved forward no more than a point.  This was a very weak field in terms of recent form with nine of the other ten either taking a quantum jump in class or being off the board in their last.  In his last, admittedly in a claimer, Dark Cove came his last half mile faster than these had ever run.

As for Maker he took this horse from McPeek exactly a year to the day ago for $50K, then put him on the shelf for EIGHT months.  Would opine the score here is:

Horsemanship  one   drugs zero

bbb

TGJB

The key point of that post involves not using TG data and makes exactly my point. Your conclusion can be no better than your info/premises.
TGJB

TGJB

Longhunter, 8th at Belmont, first Maker/Ramsey off the claim for 16k, goes 1:07 3/5 on the grass.

Clearly not using something, if he was they would have caught him already.
TGJB

high roller

J.B. - IF you are correct these people are making a fool of you and everyone else. If you are not correct you are just angry that you can\'t explain why these horses are jumping up.

Why not just concentrate on your job and let the authorities do their regulatory job.

Do you really think all the trainer\'s who are losing would allow a magic potion to put them out of business?

All I would do is hire an under-cover employee to work for them for 6 months to gather their secrets.

You are really becoming obsessed with this topic. IMO!

TGJB

HR-- Unlike with Sight I don\'t have to be concerned about people putting a lot of weight in what you say, so I\'ll let it go by.

\"What, me worry\"?--- Alfred E. Neumann
TGJB