FRANKEL-BOUNCE THEORY

[high roller]

I have been making some heavy bets against Frankel using Jerry & Rags Bounce Theory - Unsuccessful thus far - Hopefully I can get out tomorrow.

[sighthound]

Frankel\'s trainer is too good to have horses \"bounce\" - Frankel would be the one I wouldn\'t play against! but good luck to you, you never know ...

This great horse runs in about 20 minutes at Ascot (about 11:05 eastern time USA)

[sighthound]

14 races.  Never defeated, won all easily.  5 furlongs to 1 1/4 miles. Untouchable by the best of his generation.  Named after a great trainer, trained by the greatest.

Well done, Frankel.  Best horse I\'ve ever seen, better than Secretariat and all the greats that have followed that red horse.

Found these facts about Frankel published in the racing guide for today:

    Frankel has won 13 races out of 13 races by an aggregate margin of 74½ lengths, an average winning distance of 5.7 lengths, winning £2,261,072 in prize money.

    Race number 14, the QIPCO Champion Stakes, is likely to be his last before he retires to stud and if he wins by far the most valuable race that he has contested to date, he will collect another £737,230 in prize money.

    294,000 racegoers have witnessed Frankel's 13 victories, more than three times the number that attend a Cup Final at Wembley Stadium.

    Frankel is officially the highest-rated horse in the world on a rating of 140, towering above the next highest-rated horse this year, his main QIPCO Champion Stakes rival, Cirrus des Aigles, who is rated 130.

    His Timeform rating of 147 awarded after the Queen Anne Stakes is the highest in Timeform's 64-year history. It puts him ahead of the likes of Sea Bird (born 1962, rated 145), Brigadier Gerard (born 1968, rated 144) and Tudor Minstrel (born 1944, rated 144), while Timeform only have Dancing Brave on 140.

    After winning the Juddmonte International Stakes at York, Frankel surpassed the record for consecutive wins in European Group 1 races set by Rock Of Gibraltar 10 years ago. He has won eight Group 1s in a row (nine in total) and can make it nine in a row (10 in total) on QIPCO British Champions Day.

    His starting price on his debut was 7-4, the only time he has ever been odds-against. His shortest starting price was 1-20 in this year's QIPCO Sussex Stakes at Goodwood when he became the first horse in history to win that race twice.

    Frankel is valued at a record-breaking £100 million (or about $160 million) as a future stallion and is expected to command a covering fee of around £100,000.

    Frankel's life began in box number five of the Foaling Unit at Banstead Manor Stud in Newmarket, Suffolk, where he was born at 11.40pm on 11 February 2008. He weighed 123lb (8 stone 11lbs) – a bit heavier than a Flat jockey. His height now is 163.8cm or 16hh 1/2 inch.

    He was named after one of the greatest American trainers of all time, Bobby Frankel, who died in November 2009 and who trained very successfully for Frankel's owner, Khalid Abdulla.

    When Frankel arrived at Sir Henry Cecil's Newmarket yard, he went into one of the barns used for yearlings. Towards the middle of his two-year-old career, he was moved to a "bigger and better" box. However, he did not like it and would not settle, so had to be moved back. The team attempted to move him again, later in the year, but the same thing happened. He clearly prefers his original box, which now boasts CCTV – a must when stabling a horse of such value.

    He eats three feeds each day and snacks on English hay – older horses usually eat American hay, but this proved a little too rich for Frankel. For his main feed, he eats corn, alfalfa chaff and bran, and likes a carrot treat. He also has a calcium supplement to keep his bones in good shape. He eats more than any other horse in the yard – about 23lbs of Canadian oats per day, which is the equivalent of approximately 600 Weetabix biscuits.

    He has the largest feet in Sir Henry Cecil's yard and wears size 7½ shoes in front and size 7 behind.

[sighthound]

TIMEFORM GLOBAL TOP 20  Oct 9 2012

1    FRANKEL
Sir Henry Cecil, GB    147

2    BLACK CAVIAR
Peter Moody, Australia    136

3=    CIRRUS DES AIGLES
Corine Barande-Barbe, France    133

3=    EXCELEBRATION
Aidan O\'Brien, Ireland    133

5=    HAY LIST
John McNair, Australia    132

5=    SO YOU THINK
Aidan O\'Brien, Ireland    132

5=    WISE DAN
Charles Lopresti, USA    132

8=    DANEDREAM
Peter Schiergen, Germany    131

8=    ORFEVRE
Yasutoshi Ikee, Japan    131

10=    I\'LL HAVE ANOTHER
Doug F O\'Neill, USA    130

10=    MONTEROSSO
Mahmood Al Zarooni, GB    130

10=    ROCKET MAN
Patrick B Shaw, Singapore    130

13=    AFRICAN STORY
Saeed bin Suroor, GB    129

13=    BODEMEISTER
Bob Baffert, USA    129

13=    KRYPTON FACTOR
Fawzi Nass, Bahrain    129

13=    NATHANIEL
John Gosden, GB    129

13=    SEPOY
Mahmood Al Zarooni, GB    129

18    ATLANTIC JEWEL
Mark Kavanagh, Australia    128+

19=    AMAZOMBIE
Bill Spawr, USA    128

19=    CAMELOT
Aidan O\'Brien, Ireland    128

19=    DULLAHAN
Dale L Romans, USA    128

19=    FARHH
Saeed bin Suroor, GB    128

19=    FOXWEDGE
John O\'Shea, Australia    128

19=    LITTLE BRIDGE
Danny Shum, Hong Kong    128

19=    MORE JOYOUS
Gai Waterhouse, Australia    128

19=    POINT OF ENTRY
Shug McGaughey, USA    128

19=    ROYAL DELTA
William I Mott, USA    128

19=    SEA MOON
Sir Michael Stoute, GB    128

19=    SNOW FAIRY
Ed Dunlop, GB    128

19=    ST NICHOLAS ABBEY
Aidan O\'Brien, Ireland    128

[sighthound]

Timeform highest historical ratings:

147    Frankel
145    Sea Bird II    
144    Brigadier Gerard, Tudor Minstrel, Secretariat   
142    Abernant, Ribot, Windy City
141    Mill Reef
140    Dancing Brave, Dubai Millennium, Harbinger, Sea The Stars, Shergar, Vaguely Noble

[plasticman]

Would have been nice to see him in the Arc. or, The Breeders Cup this year.

[P-Dub]

Thanks Sight for the info...

[high roller]

IMO Frankel is bit like Zenyatta both carefully managed.  I believe the Japanese horse ORFEVRE would have handled Frankel handily today

[sighthound]

Frankel is to Zenyatta as Secretariat is to Zenyatta.

Frankel got a 139 for his effort today, Excelebration\'s dominating performance a 135 Timeform.

Frankel was an outstanding sprinter, who was said to not be able to stretch out. Yet he was stretched out to classic distances, continued to dominate.  He was carefully managed only in the sense he is an extraordinarily gifted athlete and trained by one of the top horse trainers in the world.

[miff]

According to a Raggie, Frankel has a figure in the Rags minus-3 range(TG minus -6 1/2) Such a  number is rare on dirt, unheard of on grass. Certainly puts him in the debate as the all time fastest, greatest we\'ll leave to the bar room debates.

JB,you have his best?

[TGJB]

Not quite that good, but damn good. By memory neg 2\'s, maybe a little better. After the Breeders Cup remind me, we\'ll put up a sheet.

[miff]

Thanks, as I understand it, his race prior to the one on Sat was his top effort by a couple of points.

[magicnight]

The one at Ascot in June was the one that got him the sky high rating, and it\'s about as stunning a race as I\'ve ever seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ca7ftUbWFI

[sighthound]

Thanks for that ... Excelebration is exceptional in his own right, he won his race by clear lengths this weekend.