Stiff Job!!!???

Started by Lost Cause, May 21, 2011, 06:11:02 PM

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Lost Cause

Did anyone notice the 5th race at Aqu today? The jock on the 6 either had a vested interest in that race or he has no idea where the finish line is.  Since he has been riding for like 100 years now I don\'t think it was the second thing.  DISGRACEFUL!!!
Please somebody take a look at that race and talk me out of going out looking for him..That jock/stiff artist cost me the pick six , pick 4 and pick threes..

PS...Ryan Cutulo is the man..THe kid can ride and he\'ll hug the rail, go through holes and swing out wide if need be..Nice prospect..Hope he doesn\'t lose his bug anytime soon..

sighthound

Well, the Equibase Chart description certainly makes me want to go watch the race replay.  Wonder if words were being exchanged all the way around, and she caught him out?

Your horse is 6-Unbridled Danger (Julio Pezua) vs 3-Saints Alive (Maylan Studart).

3 - Saints Alive  stumbled badly start
6 - Unbridled Danger  duel, let out belatedly

SAINTS ALIVE stumbled badly at the start, recovered and was urged towards the front, went head with head with the runner up soon afterwards, positioned along the rail, continued to do so down the backstretch and around the turn, with neither rival willing to concede the other the lead, and was asked for a response turning for home, with UNBRIDLED DANGER still glued directly to the outside, edged clear from that pesky opponent during the ensuing furlong, then dug in with good determination and under good handling to stave a trio of closers and preserve the decision.  UNBRIDLED DANGER broke alertly, sparred intensely with the winner from the two path, and with the rider applying a strong grip on the reins, continued along on the same scenario for nearly a half, lost contact with the actively-handled top one in upper stretch, contrasting her riding tactics by remaining chilly in the saddle, staged a comeback departing the furlong grounds, gained ground readily, despite being basically unasked, was let out belatedly in the final seventy yards and missed.

Boscar Obarra

I saw it too.

 But then again, I\'ve been seeing lots of strange things for the last 40 years.

 In Jolly Old England or Hong Kong, the stews would be demanding a VERY plausible explanation.

 That jock is a strange bird at best, but this was a sight to behold.

PS I posted this before reading sighthounds post. The NY chart caller is excellent and called it like it was.

moosepalm

If you get the chance, watch the head on.  Coming down the stretch, you see seven of the eight jockeys urging their horses energetically, while one sits chilly until the wire was in spitting distance.  It was a well timed ride for second.  Perhaps Julio had a senior moment and thought he was riding back in a bull ring, and needed to go full circuit.  My sympathy to Lost Cause.

sighthound

I forgot to look - who were the trainers and owners?

sekrah

This was almost as bad as the one I seen at Calder a few weeks ago when they did the half in 53 and every jock had headlocks on their mount while the hopeless 50-1, 8-10 points slower than everyone else in the field worked his way to the front

Ill-bred

Very interesting replay.

The stewards need to look at this race. I think the rider should be punished for not giving best effort.

MO

They didn\'t run at Aqueduct today.

Horse may have a habit of pulling himself up when he makes the lead (ala Ferdinand). Maybe you should be asking yourself \"How does a horse who stumbled badly make the lead and keep fighting?\" EVERY winner on the main track that day was either wiring the field or stalking in 2nd. Speed was good. You were unlucky.

Lost Cause

MO Wrote:
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\"> They didn\'t run at Aqueduct today.
>
 You were unlucky.\"


Sorry, it was Belmont...

The only thing I was unucky about was that I was not privy to the info that the jock was not allowed to pass that horse in front no matter what happened..Did you look at the race? Please do so , not just read the charts.  It was a horror..

I need to do something about this..Can anyone let me know who I can contact about this. Pezua can\'t get away with that.

Rick B.

Lost Cause Wrote:
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> Pezua can\'t get away with that.

Of course he can -- he\'s been a substandard rider for years. If you complain, the response you might get back is, \"Yep -- that\'s a Pezua ride, alright.\"

Don\'t waste your time with a distracting issue that simply won\'t go your way...you might be putting yourself on the precipice of a horrible wagering slump.

This is meant only as friendly advice, and it\'s based in experience. Incidents like these are where you want your short-term memory to fail, pronto.

TGJB

Try a letter to the editor of the DRF, quoting the chart notes.
TGJB

MO

Yes, I looked at the race several times. I would have been annoyed too had I placed a wager. But wagering can cloud one\'s judgement, especially after a bad beat.

Do you know any jock\'s personally? If so, ask them to watch the race with you. See what they say. I used to date a jock. Straigtened me out a few times......

And try looking at Unbridled Danger\'s past races if you can get them. Does this horse have a habit of pulling himself up or hanging?

plasticman

It looked \'criminal\' but let me try and play devils advocate for a second. Sometimes horses hate the whip and they quit when either hit with the whip, or urged hard. Maybe this guy was \'tricking\' the horse to keep running at his normal pace. Also, this is a weak jock with a poor record, this guy isnt exactly Ramon Dominguez.

The question you need to ask is if he did this on purpose and this was a criminal act, or he knew that if he asked the horse hard, the horse would quit.?

He does start urging very late in the race, does the horse quit when urged?

I would at least call the trainer and jock in and get an explanation, but i can\'t imagine the rider was going to \'stiff\' a horse like this, its not like Pezua is overflowing with winners, he\'s gotta win if he can, his career depends on it.

Boscar Obarra

At a bare minimum, bettors are entitled to a full hearing and explanation of such a peculiar ride.

  If we don\'t demand it when it\'s \'blatant\', then when?

 Watching 60 minutes now, where Cycling is getting yet another black eye. Racing seems to hold its secrets better.

moosepalm

Rick B. Wrote:
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> Lost Cause Wrote:
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> -----
> > Pezua can\'t get away with that.
>
> Of course he can -- he\'s been a substandard rider
> for years. If you complain, the response you might
> get back is, \"Yep -- that\'s a Pezua ride,
> alright.\"
>
> Don\'t waste your time with a distracting issue
> that simply won\'t go your way.


\"Forget it, Jake.  It\'s Chinatown.\"