2011 Kentucky / Oaks Probables Now Available

Started by TGAB, April 22, 2011, 04:29:35 PM

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TGAB

Now available for $25 as a Special product is a file containing Thoro-Graph sheets for the top 25 Kentucky Derby probables based on graded earnings as of 4/22/11. Also included are Thoro-Graph sheets for 17 Kentucky Oaks probables as listed by Churchill Downs as of 4/22/11.
TGAB


phil23


Flighted Iron

The price is excellent for the amount of sheer numbers.Whats the additional in case of changes?

Thanks

big18741

The X\'s in some of the last preps look like Derby X\'s.

Looking at pattern,timing and using two year old tops these DIRT HORSES look okay:

AAA-not too big a jump but with three weeks a pair up seems possible.

Toby\'s Corner-only developed a couple points at three-should at least run his race-might jump up.

Pants on Fire-jumped up pretty good in his last but now six weeks rest.

Shackleford-ugly FOY but everything else looks pretty good.Five weeks a positive.

Also MMM looks fine with six weeks but he\'s had three shots to get back to the Remsen.

MonmouthGuy

MMM may not need to get back to the Remsen to win this.

pizzalove

AAA has improved alot very quickly.  Too quickly.  Three point jump and I am guessing a definite bounce.

Tobys Corner is hard to figure.  Bounces slightly after new tops and ran against a poor field in Wood.  May use, May toss.

Pants on Fire sure to bounce after perfect trip following impossible longshot then just cruising home.  Toss.

Shackelford - Huge jump and a likely bounce. Toss.

MMM - Excellent pattern and must use.

I think comma to the top may just be the speed most likely to last here.

Tell me your opinions on Twinspired, Nehro, Brilliant Speed and MI.  Thank you.

big18741

pizzalove Wrote:
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> AAA has improved alot very quickly.  Too quickly.
> Three point jump and I am guessing a definite
> bounce.

I think he\'s more of a coinflip to bounce on three weeks.If he pairs with a decent trip he\'s trouble.He\'s only improved 2.5 from the two year old top.Trainer record at CD a concern.

> Tobys Corner is hard to figure.  Bounces slightly
> after new tops and ran against a poor field in
> Wood.  May use, May toss.

 I give him an extra point or so for the Wood trouble.If you can look past the Gotham he\'s solid in a lot of ways.I view him favorably-one of a few in the race with a chance to run a new top.Any pace even if it\'s moderate helps him.

> Pants on Fire sure to bounce after perfect trip
> following impossible longshot then just cruising
> home.  Toss.

He doesn\'t have to bounce with six weeks rest.Bottom side breeding pretty good for ten furlongs.Agree the La Derby trip was soft.

> Shackelford - Huge jump and a likely bounce.
> Toss.

2.25 points isn\'t a huge jump.I\'m tossing his FOY disaster.Hoping he gets in.
 
> MMM - Excellent pattern and must use.

Difficult to make a case against.
 
> I think comma to the top may just be the speed
> most likely to last here.

Too many right turns in the stretch-think he\'s toast after a mile.Connections making a bad move here IMO.
 
> Tell me your opinions on Twinspired, Nehro,
> Brilliant Speed and MI.  Thank you.

Not on fast dirt.
Can\'t toss him.
Not on fast dirt.
On the fence-hoping he draws really bad so I don\'t have to think about him.