who's the worst public handicapper?

[shanahan]

I can never understand how the DRF guys are so awful...you can almost take Watchmaker\'s picks and toss the winner every stakes wkend.  But not to make him the exception...who do you trust the least?  Leave TV folks out - they all suck and it\'s questionalbe to their motives.

[Boscar Obarra]

Are you saying they shouldn\'t give up their day jobs?

[joekay]

Most everything those guys write is worthless.  For the most part, they are not giving you anything you can\'t get reading the DRF.

The one guy who is giving you some valuable info is Mike Welsch.  I think his info on workouts etc. for the Derby and Breeder\'s Cup is excellent.  He\'s got a great, discerning eye and knows what he\'s talking about and if you read the DRF WEEKEND for last Saturday he highlighted Determinato who paid $30.