kings Bishop-Visionaire

Started by Silver Charm, August 21, 2008, 05:51:50 PM

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Silver Charm

He is going to need some help in here. This is a tough race.

Not sure why JBK has not gotten more notoriety for what he has done.A lot like Henny Hughes from a couple of years ago.

The Amsterdam was a productive prep for DK and KK.

Visionaire\'s biggest asset right now (besides you Barry) is Alan \"The Termite\" Garcia riding.

Silver Charm

If you do not get 8-1 on this horse do not touch him.

I just looked at the numbers and half this field is faster than the fastest horse in the Travers.

There are some insane figs in here.

flushedstraight

8-1 ML seems generous on newcomer to the stakes scene I\'m So Lucky. His public workout at the Spa 3 weeks ago was rediculous and his pattern & #power look pretty decent. Paired his top in the effortless prep; forward move here makes him competitive. Given the 3 fast ones in here though, he\'ll likely need some of that luck. He looks to good to pass up on though; Ward has upsetted the apple cart before when prepping and pointing and this one looks explosive.


Great race.

dodie

I agree, this is a fantastic race.  I made my line as follows:  (Note:  I haven\'t seen the ML yet, so these are \"pure\" odds.  I find I make my best lines when I haven\'t been swayed by what the ML maker thinks.)
J Be K - 2/1 Been doing everything \"well within himself\", unlike Kodiak Kowboy, and, too a degree, Desert Key.  I love JBK\'s 3pt. new top beginning of april, pairs it, moves fwd another 1 and 3/4, then pairs it again in his last.  All four of those races were at the right one turn distances.  7 weeks rest.
I\'m so Lucky - 3/1 Another doing it all well within himself.  Distance is a bit of a question, but I believe Langfuhr loved the 7f distance,  and I think he broke his maiden at 7 f at Keeneland despite the polytrack, not because of it.  I love John Ward stretching a horse back out again.  Love the pair last out.  Lightly raced.
Kodiak Kowboy - 7/2 Even if he bounces 3 points, he\'s there at the wire.  Hope he goes off at  3/1 or less, so I can bet against him with impunity in the win hole.
Desert Key - 4/1 Gotta respect the last race, but, just like KK, their last was the payoff, not an indication they\'re going to get better.

Michael D.

a lot depends on what Johnny V does with the 1. if Desert Key does not gun (and there\'s no guarantee he does), JBK probably gets a comfortable trip. if Desert Key goes, JBK might get stacked 3 wide in a duel - not an easy spot.

I\'ll play for a messy battle up front, and for Kodiak Cowboy to limit the bounce to 2 points and take this. you also have the entry-mate in case this thing completely falls apart.

Silver Charm

Tne entry mate Lantana Mob isn\'t bad but he was beaten on the square last out by the \"Wolfman Juice\" trainee who doesn\'t look bad either. The Wolfman shipped in Pomeroy a couple of years ago for a win so it is tough to toss him but you gotta toss somebody.

I\'ve seen some 43 halves in this race (Hard Spun, First Defence, Forestry, Tale of the Cat) and they still held on. Not sure what is messy but if does get that way and The Termite, (Woodman?) hits the wood running and his horse is ready to pop a top then at 10-1 he is worth some underneath action.

Lost Cause

Whatever Jones added to Kodiak Kowboy\'s feed bin worked last time...Gotta key him especially considering the pace and Distance.  My Key for the day..

Silver Charm

Like I said if this kid (Garcia) hits the rail coming for home this horse has a chance...........lol

Congrats Barry