Big Brown has a quarter crack

Started by toppled, May 25, 2008, 07:07:33 AM

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toppled

Just said on Albany based OTB TV Network. They said there will be a press conference at Belmont Park around 11AM Sunday.  They don\'t know if it will affect his starting in the Belmont.

Halo Fire

If that is true.....

Its open season for a score.

covelj70

Empire Maker, Spectacular Bid in the Derby all over again

Halo Fire

Buddy Delp\'s talking got him in the end.

Dutrow\'s talking has been tempting the racing GOD\'s all along.


You know, it\'s one thing when you\'re the underdog, a la Joe Namath. When you have the fastest horse and you\'re saying the rest of the crop is sub-par.....that\'s just bad taste.

covelj70

totally agree, that\'s why I have been rooting against him so hard.

I hope his arrogance causes him to run anyway.

Rick B.

covelj70 Wrote:
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> totally agree, that\'s why I have been rooting
> against him so hard.
>
> I hope his arrogance causes him to run anyway.

Yes, then maybe we can see another horrific breakdown on national TV.

:::sigh:::

Well, that\'s one grave dancer exposed. Anyone else?

covelj70

That\'s pretty insulting.

I was not under the impression that horses broke down during a race because of quarter cracks.  Thought it was more like they just slowed down, no?

Rick B.

covelj70 Wrote:
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> That\'s pretty insulting.
>
> I was not under the impression that horses broke
> down during a race because of quarter cracks.
> Thought it was more like they just slowed down,
> no?

It was meant to be insulting. It sounded like you had ill wishes for the horse, but now it seems that your comments are based strictly in ignorance of the implications of quarter cracks. I retract my \"grave dancer\" comment directed at you.

Quarter cracks come in all varieties, but depending on the severity, they can lead to bleeding, infection, lameness (foundering), and possible severe leg injuries if the entire hoof were to separate during a race.
 
I seriously doubt they will run him in the Belmont now. We\'ll see.

covelj70

ok, since you want to play that way.

I believe you were in the camp that the Preakness was a Sunday walk in the park for Big Brown and in no way shape or form did that race (or the Derby) take anything out of the horse.

I believe you insulted me for thinking that the race was harder than it looked and that he was starting to show signs that the huge numbers were taking their toll.

Feel any differently now?

ronwar

Is this confirmed?  Is it a new crack?  I haven\'t seen anything on wire.

Rick B.

covelj70 Wrote:
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> ok, since you want to play that way.
>
> I believe you were in the camp that the Preakness
> was a Sunday walk in the park for Big Brown and in
> no way shape or form did that race (or the Derby)
> take anything out of the horse.
>
> I believe you insulted me for thinking that the
> race was harder than it looked and that he was
> starting to show signs that the huge numbers were
> taking their toll.
>
> Feel any differently now?

What on earth do you mean, since I want to \"play that way\"? You\'re the one who is unclear on the implications of quarter cracks. You also can barely contain your glee that something has gone wrong with the horse.

It\'s easy to suppose that Big Brown\'s recent races caused his latest quarter crack, but there is hardly ever any sort of direct line evidence as to just when a quarter crack is triggered. So, to answer your question, no, I don\'t \"feel any differently now\" -- a quarter crack doesn\'t prove or disprove squat.

Some horses have brittle feet. Some have conformation problems. Some develop quarter cracks without any particular \"event\" needed to trigger it.

But of course, if you knew any of this, you wouldn\'t be gloating right now. Or maybe you do, and you are just a grave dancer after all.

covelj70

IF this is all true about the quarter crack, I am happy.  I hope the horse is fine and races again down the road (doubtful I suppose if this is all true) but I don\'t want him running/winning the Belmont.

I have said all along that I don\'t think Dutrow deserves to win the triple crown.  He has no class.  The comment he made about Big Brown showing the Japanese Godzilla wasn\'t dead was a ridiculous and classless thing to say and was a culmination of a littany of such comments.  It\'s stupid comments like that that contribute to Americans being the most hated people in the world.  There\'s no place for stupidity like that in horse racing.

I want a triple crown winner more than anyone and rooted for War Emblem, Funny Cide, and Smarty more than anyone.  However, I don\'t want Rick Dutrow representing the game I love to the casual racing fan.

Uncle Buck

Well? Its an hour and 38 minutes past the scheduled press conference. What\'s really going on?


miff

It\'s not a full blown quarter, the concern is about infection.Two days off, and going to Aqueduct to train, Belmont abrasive sandy loam not helping.

Big figs have ZERO to do with quarter cracks, you can pop them in light training.


mike
miff