Snore Pass

Started by Silver Charm, February 24, 2008, 02:40:44 PM

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Silver Charm

This next race is pretty boring. But for those of you who have handed the Derby Trophy to Pyro better remember.

War Pass has dusted him three times already.

Has a very high level of early speed.

Will not be encountering traffic on Derby Day.

Can rate for a while if he needs to.

And will remind everyone in a few minutes,

\"Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss\"

xichibanx

Figuring the times...I thought you would say \"To be the man, you have to beat the man.\"

Silver Charm

Keep in mind if he had cranked out another 1/8th in 13 which isn\'t inconceivable considering how easily he just ran.

He beat the FOY bunch by 10....................

Michael D.

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> Keep in mind if he had cranked out another 1/8th
> in 13 which isn\'t inconceivable considering how
> easily he just ran.
>
> He beat the FOY bunch by 10....................


that FOY was ugly. a :25 and change pace, and they still stumbled home.

Shug\'s colt in the 4th, the one taking his fifth shot at maidens, ran a second faster carrying 4 more lbs.

Silver Charm

Okay he wins by 15.

What is your take on the FOY timer Michael D?

I\'m guessing it is pretty correct. From a couple of looks at the replay.

Michael D.

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> Okay he wins by 15.
>
> What is your take on the FOY timer Michael D?
>
> I\'m guessing it is pretty correct. From a couple
> of looks at the replay.


the 1st quarter of 25.78 was perplexing, but I really don\'t know. none of the horses finished all that well, so the track might have slowed down.

but if you slow the track down, then how fast is War Pass? 1:36.1 jogging?  (though now we\'re talking 1 turn vs 2)

BitPlayer

The chart of the race (both Equibase and DRF) says the teletimer malfunctioned. Hand-timed fractions and final time were:

23.56
46.93
1:10.80
1:37.00
1:49.53

miff

Thanks Bit, it was pretty obvious that the 2 horse was sent hard and no way that first quarter was as slow as the teletimer incorrectly showed.

mike
miff

Michael D.

BitPlayer Wrote:
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> The chart of the race (both Equibase and DRF) says
> the teletimer malfunctioned. Hand-timed fractions
> and final time were:
>
> 23.56
> 46.93
> 1:10.80
> 1:37.00
> 1:49.53


DRF now says :24.1 and 1:50.17

Chuckles_the_Clown2

Well, so now we have a controversy.

Equibase says that they ran quicker fractions in the FOY than War Pass. (Who believes that?)

Now there are at least 3 sets of times. How many out there were hand timing anyway? There were two races around two turns and the first one went a little quicker.

I\'m guessing that TGraph will make the track slowing slightly late, that they ran a good number in the FOY, that Golden Spikes and Make the Point were motoring, (even if slow on the clock), and that War Pass\'s race was a very nice effort. Oh, and that Chuckles was a real bonehead for favoring a one turn wonder breaking from far outside, with a proven Graded Stakes Class Fractional speed horse inside of him.

At least my hunch play panned out. Velasquez choose the best horse.

Michael D. Wrote:
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> BitPlayer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The chart of the race (both Equibase and DRF)
> says
> > the teletimer malfunctioned. Hand-timed
> fractions
> > and final time were:
> >
> > 23.56
> > 46.93
> > 1:10.80
> > 1:37.00
> > 1:49.53
>
>
> DRF now says :24.1 and 1:50.17

Silver Charm

An elite 45 person panel made up of a vets, jocks, handicappers, owners, trainers, stewards, track officials has been gathered to study the various reasons why the FOY Timer Malfunctioned.

The group will be meeting in two weeks in an open to the public hearing.

A possible resolution will be proposed after a lengthy debate.

One of which will likely be to put something in that for over 100 years you know how it works.

miff

Just further confirmation that racing is managed by a group of mainly light weights in every aspect of the game.


Mike
miff

richiebee

Maybe when the teletimer issue is resolved, the Committee can go west and try to
help Santa Anita decide whether to go back to real dirt.

According to Steve Andersen in DRF, Richard Shapiro, a major supporter of the
switch to synthetic and Chairman of the CHRB,favored an initial study which
recommended that Santa Anita replace the Cushion with dirt.

Its a travesty.

Flighted Iron

Charm(LUCKY OR UNLUCKY),

 Please tell everyone you know that WP is the next great thing.
I WOULD like a better price come derby day on Asmussen\'s sophomore.

Regarding a racing form:try reading between the lines,caption after the lines
or the actual running lines.

By the looks of the action on your \"Big Horse\",it wouldn\'t surprise to see
him not make the derby.War Pass was doing the ol\' wax on wax off through
the lane.

Boscar Obarra

Dont see it mentioned here, but the DRF has a piece in Crists blog about the FOY and some very bizarre revelations on GP. Size matters.