Thorograph ratings on Youbet

[drbillym]

I am a new, very satisfied user of thorograph analysis.  I noticed that there are thorograph ratings available thru youbet, which have a totally different format.  So my first question is does anyone find them more helpful than the analysis?
Secondly, as I work a lot of hours, I don\'t have time to use the sheets themselves, but am trying to learn thru the redboard room.  But I wonder, after seeing success from TGNick\'s analyses, could I ever expect to do better than TGNick using the sheets on my own?

[sighthound]

Getting the TG through Youbet is great, you can just use your wagering points to purchase.

[drbillym]

No longer available on youbet-came home for lunch anxious to utilize.

[TGJB]

How recently did you get them on Youbet, and what products were available? We were selling data through them but we stopped doing it last summer. We do sell one product on Equibase (not aimed at serious handicappers), it may be that rewards points let you get that.

[drbillym]

I never knew they were available thru the youbet rewards program until sightsound replied to my post this morning.  But about 2 weeks ago I looked at the sample thorograph product they offered for $20, and it simply listed all the horses with a number figure (usually between 40-80) and instructions to adjust if the horse is overweight.

[TGJB]

Yeah, that\'s the Form rating product we only sell on Equibase. I guess you can use points to buy Equibase products. Hope I\'m getting paid for them.

We have a lot of interesting things in the works, some involving joint ventures, should be rolling them out over the next few weeks and months.

[Lost Cause]

I was checking out TVG rewards and it listed Thorograph as something you can buy with points also...If anyone is interested.

[TGJB]

If anyone does this and gets our data, I would love to hear about it.

[sighthound]

Jerry, I know I have downloaded FULL NORMAL TG SHEETS, and all 3 products were offered via their \"purchase handicapping products with your points\" rebates.

I haven\'t used Youbet consistently for some time, but just went back through my account information for 2006 - can\'t find anything.  I know I downloaded some TG sheets off Youbet for Keeneland and Saratoga.  I will look back through my info (I often save alot of it), and try and find hardcopy, or some proof.

I thought it strange, at the time, that you were not advertising here that the product was available on YouBet.  I should have smelled something was wrong, and contacted you immediately.

Believe me, I will in the future, if I suspect someone is stealing from you.

[TGJB]

We were letting them sell our data, but we ended that for various reasons last July. They may be letting people use points for the Equibase products, but Equibase only sells our \"Form Ratings\", which is not a product for those serious about doing their own handicapping.

By the way, my first 2 runs at getting the CO2 data were responded to by silence (California, no call back yet), and word that the NY SWRB does not keep records of such data (in response to a formal email request, of which there is a record, and therefore must be some answer). I\'m not done yet-- California is going to get a formal request, and I responded to NY with some questions, including, is NYRA a state agency?