Hard Spun Sunday

[NoCarolinaTony]

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah.....I bet you kiss the image in the mirror everyday too....Man you are a Narcissist of the worst kind.

I wish Jerry would do the right thing with you, as we go through this Bull shit once or twice a year.

NC Tony

[fkach]

Chuckles,

Debating whether AGS was good value or whether Curlin and HS ran their \"A\" race has nothing to do with whether Jimbo made the selection prior to the race or whether he was a very logical winner in that spot. He OBVIOUSLY was a logical winner even if you and I didn\'t select him as our most probable winner. That OBVIOUSNESS makes it more difficult to assume that every winner that Pletcher sends out was drugged. The horse\'s 2YO pattern doesn\'t make this summer development illogical. I played the horse in the Derby at a big price hoping it would come sooner. That\'s how likely I thought it was.

[alm]

Amen.

I have no doubt AGS was the best speed figure horse in the Haskell...no doubt about it.  

As for my comment about testing at Saratoga, I was speculating.  It\'s not the same from track to track and the results at Belmont simply can\'t compute if I am guessing right.

I\'m only guessing, but I don\'t think you will see AGS ending up as horse or 3yo of the year.

Street Sense, if healthy, IMHO, will win the BC Classic as the last horse standing.

[alm]

Oh, and one final comment.

Taking drug treatment (legal or otherwise) into account IS part of contemporary handicapping.

Ignore it at your peril.

[lfe2211]

alm Wrote:
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> Amen.
>
> I have no doubt AGS was the best speed figure
> horse in the Haskell...no doubt about it.  
>
> As for my comment about testing at Saratoga, I was
> speculating.  It\'s not the same from track to
> track and the results at Belmont simply can\'t
> compute if I am guessing right.
>
> I\'m only guessing, but I don\'t think you will see
> AGS ending up as horse or 3yo of the year.
>
> Street Sense, if healthy, IMHO, will win the BC
> Classic as the last horse standing.


Alm,

Why would testing be different at Saratoga and Belmont? As both are NYRA tracks, one would expect the same sample handling procedures, the same type and extent of testing as well as the same testing laboratories. What am I missing?

Thanks.

[marcus]

IMO - Absolutely % 100 excellent assessment and comparison of Bluegrass Cat and Any Given Saturday . Don\'t know what AGS ran in the Haskell but I\'m guessing it was an effort . For the balance of the summer leading up to the BC , a very lite/ medium  routine  might help keep him together + lot\'s of GD apples ...

[Lost Cause]

Got nothing to do so why not throw something out there...I remember betting during the time and all I kept saying was who is this guy (Pletcher)?  It was around when he first brought out Jersey Girl.  That would be the time period that I think Pletcher started winning everything in sight..
Take it for what it is, maybe this was around when he switched vets or because of his success with Jersey Girl he started getting better stock..Don\'t know...don\'t really care as I am one of the ones that just handicaps a race as it is given to me with \"step up\" trainers or with the 7 % trainers of the world,  to me that\'s part of the fun...Don\'t get me wrong I wish it wasn\'t the case for humane purposes but until it\'s fixed what am I supposed to do...not gamble...that\'s not gonna happen...