Lawyer Ron Track Record Verified

Started by Barry Irwin, July 30, 2007, 01:19:13 PM

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miff

JB,

Assume you know, but Porcelli said they did nothing to the surface, between races, that could explain the very fast Whitney.I guess you either get creative or just hang out there and give the winner app neg 7.


Mike
miff

TGJB

They don\'t have to \"do anything\" for the track to change speed. Track speed is mostly about moisture content, and even if they don\'t do anything to change cushion depth or compaction, normal watering (or the lack of it) can raise or lower moisture content throughout the day. Moisture content only stays the same when the amount of water added between two races exactly equals the amount lost through evaporation, and today\'sandier tracks are very responsive to moisture.

I ended giving LR close to that figure anyway, there was no way to avoid it. If you didn\'t cut the race loose you had to give him a minus 10, and give out a whole bunch of other crazy figures in the race-- or have the Go For Wand totally collapsing (and I do mean totally). I made the Whitney a little faster than Beyer did, the Go For Wand about the same. I\'ll be interested to see how Len does it, and whether he sticks with his one-size-fits-all theory of track speeds.
TGJB

miff

Big Raggie Richie said Len thinks that the fig for Lawyer Ron would be in the Ghostzapper Sheet fig range(whatever that was)
miff

fkach

I saw something on another board, but I won\'t be able to find it again without spending a lot of time looking for it. I think someone said the Rag figure was in the same range as for Ghostzapper.

TGJB

I gave him that figure too, that\'s not the issue. That\'s pretty much the worst figure you could give him, especially if you do the whole day at the same speed, as Ragozin says he does (\"objectively\"). The question is whether he really did that-- if so, he has some races going REALLY slow.
TGJB

Chuckles_the_Clown2

Am deferring to TGraph on this one, but let me point out a few observations from reviewing the card.

First off, the Vanderbilt sprinters also ran a very quick race. The time was only 3 clicks off the track record.

Secondly, being out in the 3 path was not a bad place to be.

Lastly, acknowledging that the track was quick for the right type of horse and that some near pace talented horses loved it, the result was nevertheless a very fast race.

Conclusion:

Scored as fast or faster than Ghostzapper, the figure was earned in perfect circumstances for the winner and don\'t expect the Lawyer Ron to approach that figure again. He jumped up suddenly with \"massaged\" conditioning and probably ran too fast for his own good. Its probable that considering how he got to that level of performance that it sets him back.

Prediction:

-Left Bank\'s Whitney in track record time did not increase his stud fee.

-Commentator\'s Huge Whitney win against St. Liam did not increase Commentator\'s stud fee.

-Lawyer Ron will not win again and if he survives and is still fertile, we will see what a career ending Whitney win does for him.

CtC


 TGJB Wrote:
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> I gave him that figure too, that\'s not the issue.
> That\'s pretty much the worst figure you could give
> him, especially if you do the whole day at the
> same speed, as Ragozin says he does
> (\"objectively\"). The question is whether he really
> did that-- if so, he has some races going REALLY
> slow.

Bull

CTC that\'s the second time you mentioned Commentator\'s stud fee. You do realize he is a gelding right??? If you were being sarcastic, it wasn\'t presented as clear as some of your other quips.




-Bull

NoCarolinaTony

I would have expected nothing less from you.

You are in your prime.

NC Tony

NoCarolinaTony

Damn you had to tell him about Commentator.

NC Tony

basket777

his stud fee then stayed the same. most geldings do no matter how they run. that is one of the surest things in racing

fkach

I agree.  I would like to see the figure for the Go for Wand etc... also

davidrex

CTMC;Your predictions are right-on with me!!!!