DERBY QUESTION FOR JERRY?

[davidrex]

Miff,
My experience w/Rags is one of seperation from the norm(that norm having started over 50 years ago).
There was a time when his work was innovative to the industry and over that space of time he has incorporated opinions in his #s\' to help him handicap races using his own methodology.
Maybe no one got it wrong if both parties get it right the next time they give their opinion.
Most of it I understand and use (from tapes),but I find it quicker and easier to use Thorograph.Leaves me more time to formulate my wagering,like if Pletcher can win \"the Oaks\" w/a 2 month lay,then the Derby should be a piece of cake!
By the way,I will be parking cars and shining shoes at the Rogers Av. entrance(the one closest to the \"tunnel entrance\").

[miff]

David,

You may get a shot to get even, reports seem to indicate that TAP is considering Cir Quay for the Preakness.At least you have a job!


Mike

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

Well there ya go. Now the layoff isn\'t important to TAP. Now 2 weeks is plenty of rest. Whats important to TAP is what TAP says is important.

Bring him on...Show some guts Mr. Hyde, bring him on. I double dog dare ya.

The problem with bounce is projecting a bounce upon the clearly fastest horses. There is nothing worse than projecting bounce and having it fail to materialize.

On the other hand playing the clearly fastest horse to bounce can be quite profitable, that is of course provided he does bounce. In that context however, how many have to bounce to get Circular Way and or Roxanne into the money?  Sounds like you need half the field plus to bounce. Thats an optimistic bounce projection. Good Luck.

ROX..ANNE...
You don\'t have to put on the brake lights

ROX..ANNE...
You dont\' have to put on the brake...put on the brake light...put on the brake light.

miff Wrote:
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> David,
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> You may get a shot to get even, reports seem to
> indicate that TAP is considering Cir Quay for the
> Preakness.At least you have a job!
>
>
> Mike

[TGJB]

HR-- I was out yesterday, first golf of the year (awful). Trying again tomorrow, if I can walk.

As I said before, we usually run about 3 1/2 faster than Ragozin, and he got this race about 2 slow, so we should have all the horses about 5 1/2 faster, if everybody got the ground and lengths beaten right. As David Patent pointed out in an earlier post there are significant discrepencies from that, so yes, somebody made mistakes ASIDE from getting the race as a whole wrong. Our ground can be checked pretty easily by anyone with a tape of the race-- our sheets are posted, and the paths (slightly rounded off) are on the running line. If it ain\'t us-- and since we had 3 guys look at it I\'m pretty sure it\'s not-- it\'s them.

Jimbo-- the differences in figures in the Derby (and other races of the Derby horses, like the Blue Grass and SA Derby) can play out in the reads of horses other than SS, and in races other than the Preakness. As it says over the football field at West Point, \"The seeds sown here, on other fields on other days, will bear the fruits of victory\".