The Triple Crown needs Restructuring

Started by Silver Charm, May 20, 2006, 04:04:15 PM

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Silver Charm

I put this suggested change up the week before last and it was ignored. Its going up again. The schedule of the Triple Crown races needs to be changed, and changed soon.

Today\'s events were not good and will continue if 3YO horses are asked to race on schedules they are no longer built for. No one can predict a breakdown but soreness, imflamation can cause an athlete to compromise his action. With humans it usually ends up somewhere in the back.

Horses who are asked to compete on the schedule the Triple Crown requires are lucky if they make it to Labor Day. For Barbaro sun-up might be a stretch.

How many more is it going to take.........


Chuckles_the_Clown2

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> I put this suggested change up the week before
> last and it was ignored. Its going up again. The
> schedule of the Triple Crown races needs to be
> changed, and changed soon.
>
> Today\'s events were not good and will continue if
> 3YO horses are asked to race on schedules they are
> no longer built for. No one can predict a
> breakdown but soreness, imflamation can cause an
> athlete to compromise his action. With humans it
> usually ends up somewhere in the back.
>
> Horses who are asked to compete on the schedule
> the Triple Crown requires are lucky if they make
> it to Labor Day. For Barbaro sun-up might be a
> stretch.
>
> How many more is it going to take.........
>
>

When a horse is bred for pure speed with a pedigree full of breakdown lineage trying to protect the breed or the game by shortening the races and spacing the events will only inure to continuing to breed short distance, infirm horses. Barbaro had a very disconcerting hunk of Carson City broodmare sire and that may have done him in.

Besides, I want to have the knowledge which horses can stand up to short spacing better than others. I don\'t want that playing field equaled by spacing them so every race is a first back.

Lets not get all worked up because an underlayed 1-2 got worked up and broke down. Matz is still a hero and a darn good trainer. The industry will note to bring its weak bred animals to him.

Beer Time, check back in around midnight.


tmcdevitt

\"Lets not get all worked up because an underlayed 1-2 got worked up and broke down\"

you make me sick chuckles.

TGJB

CTC-- I have to say, pathetic need for attention notwithstanding, nobody could make you look worse than you make yourself look.
TGJB

miff

NBC stayed with poor Barbaro too long.Not good for anyone especially the casual observers who were sicker than me.


Mike
miff

Silver Charm

Chuckles,

They changed the spacing of the Preps, ie--Wood, Ark Derby, Blue Grass why not the Triple Crown races they are pointing for.

The owners of Barbaro were running for three things today and three things alone: 1) Tradition  2.) A $600K winners purse 3.) And no Triple Crown bonus.

Somehow risking a $30 Million dollar asset doesn\'t seem worth.  

TGJB

Don\'t know if I ever told this story here before or not...

Back in 90 (?) my brother needed a heart transplant, and was lying in a hospital waiting for \"next available heart\". They had him wired so the nurse\'s station could monitor what was going on with him from there. Anyway, he turns on the BC telecast, and Go For Wand goes down. The nurses were in the room with sedatives within 30 seconds-- that\'s how much the needle jumped on the meter.

To anticipate the next question, he\'s fine. Bikes all over the place, won a golf tourney for heart transplantees (!).

Meanwhile, in the black humor department, what\'s the over/under on how many drinks Bill Nader (head of marketing at NYRA) has had in the last hour? They\'re not only going to lose those that come for the TC-- they\'re going to lose all but the hardcore fans for this Belmont.

Bad day for the game.
TGJB

Silver Charm

Hate to respond to my own post, but I will put this out there for any and all savvy handicappers.

Based on the above risk/reward would any of us make that bet.

Only a bridge-jumper could say yes. I turned my $30M into $40M. Look how smart I am.

No look how stupid you are........but its Tradition.

miff

Jerry,


You have no idea how correct you are.All top Nyra brass openly rooted all week for Barbaro to win today.Bill Nader estimated a difference of up to 50k people on Belmont Day if Barbaro wins the Preakness.


Mike
miff

marcus

The TV COVERAGE WAS FINE UNTILL  they stayed with the Horse  too long a time while he was in obvious extreme distress . A bad judgement call by the network , not only was it  unethical but in very poor taste as well .

If the Racing Industry and Networks don\'t want to see triple crown restructuring by now , they are really out of step and out of touch with the realities of the situation ...  
marcus

Silver Charm

Promote the rest of the card. Only Barbaro, if he won, was the only one moving on today anyway. I would have told you this last week.

Baffert and others anticiapted that when they said \"pass\". Smart move because they can win a Belmont just like Commendable did.

Tell Nader to slow it down, but be ready. Its only a matter of time before this happens to him at his place.

P-Dub

Jerry,

Enough is enough.  This idiot is too much. Can you get rid of him somehow??
P-Dub

ltg


marcus

Sure SC everybody wants to win , but this is a corporate culture we live in and untill a realization that interests in racing  need to be protected can take place , the status quo will continue and the racing industry party line stuff will remain  - people would rather have a Triple  Crown Winner .

 Space the 3 races differently and possibly others leading up to and after them -Add a 4th race to the Crown series , maybe on turf at 7/8\'s whatever , but something should be done .

 Baseball expanded their market share when going with additional playoff games and in essence created 4 divisions in each league (  w/ wild card div ) - Perhaps Horse racing would benifit from such an approach .  

 I think non-hardcore racing fans want to follow the sport with more regularity except that persistent negativity and stigma associated with racing is keeping them away by the millions ...    
marcus

Silver Charm

Some of the powers that be that are standing put in not adjusting the schedule spacing of the Triple Crown races are some of the same people who fought like hell to NOT ALLOW Full Card Simulcasting. Who fought like hell to NOT ALLOW wagers like the Trifecta, Super, etc.

Bad for the game.......now its what supports it.

If they can change the layout of Augusta National because they felt like the course was becoming too easy can\'t they change the spacing of the Triple Crown because its become too hard on the horses. And take note of the fact I said too hard on the horses. Winning the Triple Crown will not be any easier, one could argue it may become even tougher.

Jerry please change the Home Page to say \"Can Barbaro Stay Alive\" and start another clock with days, hours, and minutes until we start killing the careers of another promising group of three year olds in next years Criple Crown Races.