So Meanwhile

[TGJB]

What the hell with the Ex Caelis thing? The filly sits down in the gate, then rears back so far the jock comes off, and they don\'t even take her out and look at her??? Until I saw the chart I didn\'t know she was eased.

For those of us that played the race the way I suggested in the seminar that was pretty nasty-- I said 3 were value, the other 2 ended up 2-3. Though even if they scratched her there wouldn\'t have been time to re-bet the race... but it would have been a return of most of the money.

[MO]

Very strange considering Bobby Duncan - the best starter in the business - was hired for the day after CD fired their starter for reasons still unknown.

Bob was the NYRA starter for at least the past 15 years.

[Delmar Deb]

I watched the race live at a simulcast site and never saw the view from behind the gate on the track feed.  I had bet Ex Caelis in Pool 1, saw the late action on her in Pool 3 (when she still had not run yet as a 3 y.o.) and thought her race at Oaklawn was a perfect set-up.

But she was dead on the board at Churchill for a supposedly live Lukas horse, which made me a little nervous.

I did not see the gate incident until I saw the ESPN tape that night when I got home...and I didn\'t know I had such words in my vocabulary as came out of me then.  They had already scratched 2 filles at the gate in an earlier race for a lot less than what Ex Caelis did.  When they put her back in the gate to race, I could almost believe Croll\'s story about Holy Bull and the gate crew.

Someone said on another thread that Kentucky brought down a sub starter from New York for Derby Day because the one at Churchill was still new.  Who was the starter on Oaks Day - the new Kentucky guy or the New York sub?

[marcus]

That incident is very disturbing and aside for the fate of my ex/tri-box , they really need help ...

 Who are the people on the administrative side of racing in Ky that would responsible for providing a quality product ?

[MO]

marcus Wrote:
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> That incident is very disturbing and aside for the
> fate of my ex/tri-box , they really need help ...
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>  Who are the people on the administrative side of
> racing in Ky that would responsible for providing
> a quality product ?
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> marcus.

Well, the good \'ol boys, doncha know?

[Delmar Deb]

Is that why there has not been a word about it in Marty McGee\'s columns and Lukas is keeping his mouth shut...because he still has his stable @ CD for the meet?

[marcus]

Mo - I\'m still kind of new in town and I hope you don\'t mean those \" Good \'Ole Boy-Fella\'s \" are kicking in again - maybe they can get the \"Oklahoma Kid \" for a starter next time .

 By now , it\'s conspicious  that a \" cone of silence \" has fallen around this entire matter and that makes  me think this really might be something big . To me this potentially is on par w/ the P-6 and offshore scandle\'s in terms of magnitude .

 From what I\'m gauging from media and from people I talk to on the street is that the whole thing is not a topic of discusion and is not being thought about at all ...