SINISTER MINISTER 116


LAWYER RON  98

twoshoes: Millenium Wind - again.

Chuckles_the_Clown2: twoshoes Wrote:
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> Millenium Wind - again.

Millenium Wind won by about 6 lengths and ran a figure right there with Point Given and Monarchos.

Sinister Minister won by 12 and devastated 3 horses pointing for the Derby. He beat up Strong Contender and took his lunch money. He made Bluegrass Cat wonder what hit him and he retired First Samurai. He\'s now the Bluegrass Bully.
To my eye he will be one of the fastest horses at a better price than the favorites. Do you play a horse like that to bounce?

congaree1: He had a pair of 3\'s going in, I\'m sure he ran the fastest 3 year old fig this year. In my opinion it\'s an isolated race. I think he will BOUNCE.

twoshoes: My opinion? I take any big figure earned on that track with a grain of salt. If it was a big new top, and I\'m almost sure it was (116 Beyer?) he\'ll be shorter than he should be come Derby day. Again, my opinion. Your free to disagree.

Frost King: Did not Baffert win the Derby with another speed horse that Freaked on a speed track? War Emblem in the Illinois Derby on a two bit track. Same big number from nowhere at a big price. I would tread lightly with this one. Could be another War Emblem on the tote board!

marcus: Sometimes they explode off the 0X0 specially when their not to heavily raced and haven\'t reacted negatively to previous efforts . Getting a favorable pace + trip senario along with faster horse\'s going into that race flattening out didn\'t hurt SM\'s chances either . I wouldn\'t look to get a price or another similar trip on Sinister in the Derby , though it\'s not possible he could run another number in that range , I\'m guessing he ran a 4 or 5 + pt top on Thoro-Graph ...

Bally Ache: There\'s general agreement that Kee and CD are two very different tracks.  Until we see how they work at CD, we\'re all just batting our gums.  Having said that, I\'ll bat my gums a little.

Doesn\'t Sinister Minister\'s race remind you of Bellamy\'s Road\'s Wood?  In both cases my reaction is/was, like to see him do it again.

I\'ll be surprised if Lawyer Ron is in the money on May 6.  He beat up on the same group (give or take an allowance horse or two) in all three races.  He doesn\'t look like he wants to run a mile & a quarter any more than I do.

This is starting to shape up as a pretty good group.  After last year we deserve it.

As of now I\'d take Sweetnorthernsaint but the race is still almost three weeks away.

That\'s enough opinions on a Monday morning from someone who liked Strong Contender

RICH: Could be, however, I kind of liken him to BANDINIs -3 last year at Keeneland. I wouldn\'t play any horse with that big of a jump up off a race at Keeneland in the Derby. NO way, NO how.

marcus: It remined me a lttle of the \'02 Belmont when Sarava popped the field - except in the Bluegrass , Sinister was Alot easier to come up with and well respected at 8-1 ... Though I doubt whether SM will be a must use in the Derby .
I\'m trying to ( w/ a 101 fever don\'t help )  make a  Morning Line for Derby Probable\'s and right now I\'m clueless .

 Jerry has been quiet about the race so far this year , so I\'ll be willing to bet that he\'s got a couple nice perspective plays he\'s looking at right now  , I might be covered for win with future\'s so I\'m hoping key on  Jerry\'s exacta + trifecta + superfecta  play\'s this year .  

johndrj: which horse would you rather own ?   there is no way these 2 horses are ~10 lengths apart, just no way.

Chuckles_the_Clown2: johndrj Wrote:
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> which horse would you rather own ?   there is no
> way these 2 horses are ~10 lengths apart, just no
> way.
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Are you sure?

God, I wish Jerry would weigh in on some of these races with the meaty bones.

marcus: The pattern was \" potentially \" explosive and that\'s where the big  Blue Grass number ( assuming Jerry gave one ) came from  . The big Question was could he do it given the races conditions ...

johndrj: yes,

i am sure, no way.

john

miff: Marcus,

A RAG buddy just mentioned that Sinister Minister ran neg -1 3/4.That makes it in the neg -5 range for TG.

I am interested to know why you found Sinister Min to be sitting on a world class top, going in.What was the pattern statistical prob. on TG, I did not see it.

Mike