The 146th Kentucky Derby Field

[Molesap]

The 146th Kentucky Derby Field
1. Finnick the Fierce-50
2. Max Player-30
3. Enforceable-30
4. Storm the Court-50
5. Major Fed-50
6. King Guillermo-20
7. Money Moves-30
8. South Bend-50
9. Mr. Big News-50
10. Thousand Words-15
11. Necker Island-50
12. Sole Volante -30
13. Attachment Rate -50
14. Winning Impression-50
15. Ny Traffic-20
16. Honor A. P.-5
17. Tiz the Law-3/5
18. Authentic-8

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Molesap Wrote:
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> The 146th Kentucky Derby Field
> 1. Finnick the Fierce-50
> 2. Max Player-30
> 3. Enforceable-30
> 4. Storm the Court-50
> 5. Major Fed-50
> 6. King Guillermo-20
> 7. Money Moves-30
> 8. South Bend-50
> 9. Mr. Big News-50
> 10. Thousand Words-15
> 11. Necker Island-50
> 12. Sole Volante -30
> 13. Attachment Rate -50
> 14. Winning Impression-50
> 15. Ny Traffic-20
> 16. Honor A. P.-5
> 17. Tiz the Law-3/5
> 18. Authentic-8

8 horses 50-1. 4 horses 30-1.

[TGJB]

No Art Collector???

[bfick]

Foot issue. Targeting the Preakness

[P-Dub]

I\'ll be the first.

Wednesday night??

[jwbcardinals]

Disappointing to see Art Collector out of the KD!

If you think Tiz was overly cranked to get Sackatoga the big NY races and not able to hold his tight conditioning for 3 months...the tote board could explode this year.

It isn\'t normal these days for a horse to run back 10f as quickly as he will be this year. And he likely will not be saving any ground. Not saying he will bounce (no evidence yet), but if he isn\'t as sharp it will be interesting figuring out who can jump a couple points to be in play.

[TGJB]

We\'ll have it up tomorrow, and seminar late tomorrow or Thursday.

[ajkreider]

I think he will do just fine, but I will bet that he doesn\'t.  

The above is viewed by some epistemologists as non-sensical, but that only shows that epistemology could benefit from philosophers spending more time at the track.

[jwbcardinals]

Ha, thanks for that. I admit that my comments were unsubstantiated suppositions, so I can\'t defend the veracity of my assertions.

[boardedup]

It’s not totally outrageous, he hasn’t ran back this quick really ever in his career if I’m not mistaken?

[BitPlayer]

One thing that the delay from May to September has not changed: I am fairly confident that the seminar will mention ground loss being important here.  Given his post and the way he\'s been ridden recently, Tiz the Law will likely be wide throughout.

[mjellish]

Watch the way he always turns his head to the right in the stretch and isn\'t focused, then the jock gets him focused and he finds another gear quickly.  Very athletic, smaller bodied type.  There haven\'t been fans in the stands lately so hes not looking at that.  I dunno why he keeps doing it.  I think maybe he is looking for another horse coming from outside him, which he doesn\'t seem to like.  His loss came when he was tucked inside of horses and he didn\'t seem to like it and maybe remembers it.  In his next race, when it looked like he was going to get bottled up and get the same trip, they wrangled him back pretty strongly just to get him a path to get outside.  So you would think after drawing wide they will ride him like he is the best horse, keep him outside and in the clear.  That probably means wide trip.  Its anyone\'s guess how wide.

[RICH]

how can you like him, not that fast vs others, way outside, total bet against

[bluechip21]

I’m so against this horse. King G all day. Will defer your our lord and savior on the seminar but this horse has the breeding and the TB Derby was the most impressive race pre May 5. So I’ll go with that. NY Traffic, Attachment Rate, Thousand Words will be rounding out the $1 box super for me.

[johnnym]

Agree 100%

 Holy Bull he was checked just to get outside.
Then in the FL Derby before he got to the first turn he was already brought out side.
I was hoping he was gonna get stuck with the 2 hole. I definitely would be a bet against.
He did draw an ideal post though and being a young jock between to wise veterans who’s horses are just as fast on paper. Baffert horses have made lefts out of the gate before.

Race definitely looks like there will be pace and the field could be a bit strung out, so ground loss may not be all that around the first turn.
Turning for home may be a different story.

At 3/5 what’s the fun in that?
Hell, for the year we are having it would be par for the course.
GL
John