The DQ

[Chas04]

Another Derby another bomb not on the radar ha oh man....

[ajkreider]

Clearly \"on the radar\" of TG.  His last was a point off of the winner\'s, with an improving line.

[Mstrlucky74]

Isn\'t Servis a cheat of late anyway? He stats seem to indicate that. Am I right? If so.........KARMA.

[bluechip21]

Bullshit.

[john9969]

Why don\'t we look at the first turn with as much focus?

[kencbs]

That was the SoCal stewards.  Agree with you there.  But earlier that year, the Churchill stewards DQed the same Bayern from 1st in the Derby Trial, a decision that kept Bayern from qualifying for the Derby.  So, based on past history, it wouldn\'t have mattered who trained MaxSec.

When you take out 3 horses, almost drop 2 of them, and completely cost them position, it\'s an easy call.  The only reason it took so long is because it\'s the Derby, with all the scrutiny that comes with it.  FYI - MaxSec was placed, not behind War Of Will, but 17th, behind Toddy, the worst finisher of the 3 he fouled.

Just think of what would be happening to the sport right now if one of the horses fell and the jockey got trampled.  The calls to ban the sport would be loud and never-ending.

By the way, this has to be one of the all-time weird Doubles - the same trainer has a horse DQed in both the Oaks and the Derby.  That\'ll never happen again.

[Roman]

I get it, a foul is a foul, but for the last 35 years watching this race and seeing the roughly riddled race every year, out of the gate, into the first turn , around the second turn and never a dq,
If you were going for safety every race, limit the field to 14 or something.
Best horse won regardless, would of won anyway you look at it, should of stayed up.

[P-Dub]

Roman Wrote:
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> I get it, a foul is a foul, but for the last 35
> years watching this race and seeing the roughly
> riddled race every year, out of the gate, into the
> first turn , around the second turn and never a
> dq,
> If you were going for safety every race, limit the
> field to 14 or something.
> Best horse won regardless, would of won anyway you
> look at it, should of stayed up.

You have no idea, None, of what would have happened if WOW wasn\'t impeded. He was making a move on the turn and full of run, then MS came out and nearly dropped him.

[JR]

John had Jaywalk

[JR]

I agree with you about the field size

[john9969]

who got laid out in the first turn?  you can\'t look at the turn from home and make decisions that have no effectc on the result.....the winner was the winner on the turn.......But if stewards are looking at a race....look at the entire race.

[john9969]

why were the jocks that rode beside the #6 in the oaks pemitted to ride today?

[wrongway]

On the radar maybe but CD analysis gave out 8 horses. #20 wasn\'t one of them.

[boardedup]

20 objecting is the gross part of it all to me.  There’s so much that goes on in this race every year the irony shouldn’t be lost on anyone that this is the instance they take someone down.  Silver’s pre race post sums it up pretty perfectly.  Foul or no foul it’s a terrible look and will absolutely turn a massive amount of people off at a time when it’s the last thing racing needs.

 You can’t take down the horse that ran the best in this race for something that 95% of the people who were watching either didn’t see, don’t understand, or both. Super Poor optics from where I sit.  No Stewards inquiry, why did the 20 object again?

[P-Dub]

boardedup Wrote:
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> 20 objecting is the gross part of it all to me.
> There’s so much that goes on in this race every
> year the irony shouldn’t be lost on anyone that
> this is the instance they take someone down.
> Silver’s pre race post sums it up pretty
> perfectly.  Foul or no foul it’s a terrible look
> and will absolutely turn a massive amount of
> people off at a time when it’s the last thing
> racing needs.
>
>  You can’t take down the horse that ran the best
> in this race for something that 95% of the people
> who were watching either didn’t see, don’t
> understand, or both. Super Poor optics from where
> I sit.  No Stewards inquiry, why did the 20 object
> again?

So because many people watch this race without a clue about racing, we should just ignore infractions.

Those same people will be back next year.