Hidden Scroll

Started by Tavasco, January 26, 2019, 10:26:03 AM

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Tavasco

Hidden Scroll just won the 4th race race @ GP on Pegasus day. I suppose we will have some eye catching performances in the upcoming stakes races but Hidden Scroll set the bar pretty high.

I suggest watching this one going forward. In this, his first start he went 1:342 for a mile and looked a lot like his sire Hard Spun doing so.

Hello Florida Derby and 2019\'s Florida shooting star.

TreadHead

Very impressive win, just needs points.  And with the high likelihood of slop at the Derby these days, would definitely be one to watch for.  When that half went up in 44.2 I didn\'t think there was any way, then he won by like 15

boardedup

Super Impressive, I’m riding shotgun on this guy’s band wagon.  One of, if not the best effort of the winter so far imo.

ajkreider

Want to see it again. Wet tracks do funny things.

Topcat

Tavasco Wrote:
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> Hidden Scroll just won the 4th race race @ GP on
> Pegasus day. I suppose we will have some eye
> catching performances in the upcoming stakes races
> but Hidden Scroll set the bar pretty high.
>
> I suggest watching this one going forward. In
> this, his first start he went 1:342 for a mile and
> looked a lot like his sire Hard Spun doing so.
>
> Hello Florida Derby and 2019\'s Florida shooting
> star.


Boy, did \"the media\" bury this one . . . the works holdout of the young season.

Flighted Iron

Beyer fig @104. They said it\'s the highest debut fig at a mile or beyond in the last 10 years.

boardedup

Hard to keep that quite..  Wondering what the TG number will come back at?  What do you think, goes forward from here in FOY, FL Derby and on to KY assuming he stays healthy?  He’ll need points as was mentioned above but strictly from a Beyer stand point 104 is already fast enough to get in the gate in early May. I’d think two preps though.

His dad took ‘em a long way in the derby, maybe this is the Hard Spun that gets it done.  Could be a banner 3 year old spring for PA racing & roots. As dumb as it is to project out when you’re still three weeks before Valentine’s Day, but hey I got a good feeling about this year for some reason...

Flighted Iron

Likely prep schedule for sure.Points will be a byproduct if he stays well.It\'s a bit unsettling seeing a horse run that fast so soon. Wish them all the best!!

Uptown502

Flighted Iron Wrote:
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> Beyer fig @104. They said it\'s the highest debut
> fig at a mile or beyond in the last 10 years.


Do you know the others that debuted with 100+? I’m interested to see the names and how they ended up.

Flighted Iron

I did a little checking. I found very little historical info.

Tavasco

Uptown502 wrote: Do you know the others that debuted with 100+? I’m interested to see the names and how they ended up.

Uncle Mo, I think, 2010 Saratoga.

May never have run sub 100. Has not done much of anything wrong. Has the misfortune of hooking Game On Dude in the 2011 Breeders Cup, his last race (Won by Drosselmeyer)




As a side note - Trainer W. Ward will probably have the 2nd choice (legitimately so imo) a Euro-immigrant in Saturday\'s John Battaglia Stakes @ Turfway Park. I, for one, love the next out after The Breeders Cup Juvenile angle and The Mackem Bullet (IRE) proved it again last out.

Now, it could be hard a get a price as high as the 2/1 morning line? Oh Yea the favorite is (speak of the devil) next out from the BCJ. Wondering how he will handle the artificial surface - not all do!

johnnym

Haskin wrote he got a -2
I will play the bounce

Molesap

Not sure if these are all of them, but I am pretty sure I got the ones below correct with their Beyer century topping debuts. By the way, Uncle Mo debuted with a TG of 0 and rattled off two more 0\'s as a 2YO. He peaked as a 3YO in his penultimate race before the Breeder’s Cup at a -4 in the Kelso (118 Beyer). Of Uncle Mo’s eight lifetime starts, he went below 100 on the Beyer scale four times. In terms of the list - that is some pretty good company although Maclean\'s Music retired after debut.

Some Century Topping Debut Beyers
Maclean\'s Music 114
Formal Gold 112
Hook and Ladder 110
Discreet Cat 106
Kelly Kip 104
Uncle Mo 102
Holy Bull 101

dglass2232

I believe JUSTIFY ran a 102 BSF in the debut. Bill Mott had a colt, KHOZAN, I believe he was a sib  to ROYAL DELTA who ran a triple digit in the debut and got injured and retired on Derby Trail. Al Stall had a colt, BIND that I believe dropped a 105 BSF in the debut a few years ago AT FG.

Molesap

Jeez, how could I forget Justify\'s 104 in debut at 7f at SA?