Chad Brown/Pletcher

Started by Silver Charm, August 24, 2018, 02:21:11 PM

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Silver Charm

As Brown is overpowering the Spa Cards with multiple favorites and winners on the big race days, along with spread entries in most of the grass stakes fields, Pletcher is forced to sit and watch it.  

16 wins this meet to 33 barely explains the domination. After Brown cleaned housed on the Arlington Million Card, swept 3-4 races on Haskel Day, the shift in the balance of power has been incredibly swift.

I doubt he or anyone in the barn has let up. and I do think his horse in the Travers has a punchers chance at decent odds. 10-1 ML. The negative number in the Wood set him back a little. He made a menacing move in Belmont and flattened. He was lightly trained for the Dandy and yanked way back early in that soft field. The late finish is a little fools gold as the winner got goofy. This looked like a complete prep race.

hellersorr

Way of the world, I suppose.  Once upon a time Pletcher supplanted D. Wayne, his old boss.

FrankD.

One win Thursday/Friday for Chad with 8 beaten favorites, at least half of them odds on.
Tourist day tomorrow he won’t have a horse over 2/1 except in races with multiple entries. He has burned a lot of money at this meet for a 30% trainer.....

Pletcher normally wins 15 plus 2yr old races here, this year 3, with 2 of them put up on DQ’s....

Silver Charm

One more win than Pletcher over those two days. Brown burns a lot money every day he enters and runs because He loses 70% of the time and everything he sends out is bet. He also runs 1-2 a lot and is 43% over the last two years with JL Ortiz. 18 out of 21 times in the money at this meet with him. He might win a couple tomorrow and to your point the ones who dont win will be heavily bet.

Silver Charm

I actually think Brown is a live chance here in Jerkins with
Engage Not the favorite either. Neg 3 and 4 on the others is maybe too fast. Steady line for Engage. Chased winner last after gate trouble and flattened. Will probably try and come a little later this time. Everyone is at the mercy of the front runner who bounced badly after new big top in Florida. Albeit at a route.

johnnym

Brown one winner and two thirds.
I’m guessing he burnt a lot of cash yesterday
Baffert Smith nuff said

Silver Charm

Yes Johnny and well called by Frank D. Brown sucked me in twice. And Pletcher twice. Actually I got shut out on Travers so Pletcher once (Social Paranoia, against one of the worst Brown favorites in history). Pletcher may be gearing his 2YO more for Fall Belmont but the overall decline of his Barn is staggering comsodering the amount of investment he receives annually.

TGJB

We will post the day after I do it in a few days, there will be much to chew on. God knows what Marley ran.
TGJB

Topcat

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> Yes Johnny and well called by Frank D. Brown
> sucked me in twice. And Pletcher twice. Actually I
> got shut out on Travers so Pletcher once (Social
> Paranoia, against one of the worst Brown favorites
> in history). Pletcher may be gearing his 2YO more
> for Fall Belmont but the overall decline of his
> Barn is staggering comsodering the amount of
> investment he receives annually.


Not to mention the astounding negative run the Mighty Irad is currently riding to the Pits of Hell . . .

Silver Charm

Totally agree TGJB and I stsrted to go there but dropped it. This is ridiculous. The moveups after Barn switches are so blantant that even NYRA can see them. Well ok a little stretch on that one. And where was the $100,000 last second punch on Fresian Fire? WTF!!

FrankD.

Irad about 0-last 30, pretty close without counting.
Chad 1-16 run on favorites
Pletcher horses can’t run a step

The ONLY Certainity in racing any longer is Baffert coming to NY running tops....
Surprised not a peep on this board about Non-Sterawds Inquiry in Abel/Elate stretch run? I guess when you get a red jacket they leave you alone?
I had Abel/Farrell exacta, so no skin in the game.....
BUT:
Abel while being hit constantly left handed, came over 4 paths and slammed Elate turning Jose sideways in the saddle, gets beat a head and not even a Stewards look?
COME ON MAN ðŸ'Ž

johnnym

100% disagree Frank two wrongs don’t make a right they both came over
Correct call

Sean D

Looked like she should come down from Hotel room downs.

Andy thought it should stand as you would expect.

FrankD.

Johnny,

Let me explain to you like a 5 yr old!

There are bad,wrong,controversial decisions every day at several race tracks.
The NYRA stewards not even calling for a look at the stretch run is the crime....

Topcat

FrankD. Wrote:
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> Irad about 0-last 30, pretty close without
> counting.
> Chad 1-16 run on favorites
> Pletcher horses can’t run a step
>
> The ONLY Certainity in racing any longer is
> Baffert coming to NY running tops....
> Surprised not a peep on this board about
> Non-Sterawds Inquiry in Abel/Elate stretch run? I
> guess when you get a red jacket they leave you
> alone?
> I had Abel/Farrell exacta, so no skin in the
> game.....
> BUT:
> Abel while being hit constantly left handed, came
> over 4 paths and slammed Elate turning Jose
> sideways in the saddle, gets beat a head and not
> even a Stewards look?
> COME ON MAN ðŸ'Ž


Believe they\'re taken BB down but once in So Cal in recent years, in some third-drawer lightweight race . . . but never when it matters, even when justified.