Belmont Stakes Reflections

[jbelfior]

One of the great rides you\'ll ever see in a big money race. Irad put Creator in the 3 post after drawing 13.
The 1 1/16th angle holds up again, but doesn\'t put any cash in my pocket. Had Destin in horizontals and used him in exacta boxes with Brody, Exaggerator, and Stradivari. They can run that race again today and I\'m still not using Creator.

Time for breakfast. Think I\'ll go and find a diner that\'s out of eggs.

Good Luck,
Joe B

[miff]

Creator,a slug,with a 99 Beyer affirms a weak Belmont(TG 1.25)With EXAG a no show,race just common.Tough beat with Destin,looked home did the most running, decent performance. Third close loss in Belmont for TAP (Stay Thirsty,Commissioner, Destin

Grinding slug Lani will get drubbed at shorter distances and remains speedless regardless of his phony wide fig.

Fraudsted loses scarlet letter with insane performance(Like TG -neg 6 3/4)and puts a fork in the negative Dubai theory.

Carina Mia serious threat to Songbird if she can stretch out two turns.

Flintshire makes mockery of American Turfers if he stays sound. Chad Brown has to be using!

[johnnym]

Govenor Malibu was winning that race if the wabbit doesn\'t cut him of on the rail.

[jbelfior]

More accurate is that GM would definitely have been closer. Winning the race? Tough to say for sure.

Good Luck,
Joe B.

[Silver Charm]

You may be right. But that might have also been part of the rabbits job. Set a solid pace and don\'t give anyone the rail.

Also it\'s been said on here before that Clement tells his riders to save ground. Prime example here that didn\'t work out....

[sekrah]

I don\'t think Malibu cracks the Exacta with a clean hole.  Likely 3rd, maybe a length back. When he finally did get run, he didn\'t exactly explode.  He looked fast with Gettysburg stopping but Destin and Creator were spurting away from the rest of the field at the same time.  Rosario being super active with his arms doesn\'t mean the horse was ready shoot ike a cannonball.

[Bet Twice]

Completely agree, no way GM wins that race.  The trouble cost him some lengths for sure but he wasn\'t beating the top two.

[johnnym]

Kind of tough for a horse to (explode) as you say after being checked up twice.
I wheeled in him all 3 spots, would of had the tri,sour grapes on my half..

[jbelfior]

Bad decision by Rosario to stay down there. Had to know the 6 was going to back up, bear in, etc. Talented rider but not the brightest light in the room.

When you bet a horse the jock is part of the package.

Good Luck,
Joe B.

[johnnym]

Agree to an extent, but from the 1 hole in a mile and a half race saving ground is a very appealing thing to do..
I am willing to bet that Paco gets more riding assignment from Winstar

[sekrah]

miff Wrote:
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> Flintshire makes mockery of American Turfers if he
> stays sound. Chad Brown has to be using!


Jerry should just scrap his overseas figures. He\'s not getting the variants right and they are not useful.  This horse is a monster against this field on every other measure.  Not in a million years would someone be able to convince me that Divisidero and Ironicus have a race that\'s faster than every overseas race Flintshire has ever run.

[TGJB]

Here\'s a thought. Look at the back Breeders Cups in the Archives, the figures the Euros had coming in and what they ran. Then come back and apologize.

Again-- WTF do you guys think we do here? We run checks on those figures, what they run there and here. The ones who add Lasix on average move up a point, the ones who don\'t average exactly their last figure there when they run here. It\'s not an accident . AND-- by definition they are running here AFTER running there, so they are older, which is important in the case of younger horses.

[sekrah]

Was Flintshire on Lasix when he won the Sword Dancer (new top, best figure of his life)?

[TGJB]

No. Nor was he on it when he previously ran in the BC at SA, running slightly WORSE than his previous Euro number, and the same as his next foreign one. I repeat-- go back and look, there are a lot of them, they\'re right there.

[TGJB]

On yesterday\'s Belmont card alone-- look at Triple Threat, Wake Forest (first Lasix at GP), Faufilier, La Berma, Inordinate. Those are all the Euros that ran at Bel yesterday that had also run here, coming in. Actually go look and report back, instead of pulling \"scrap the Euro figures\" out of your butt. I\'m tired of hearing anecdotal BS from guys who don\'t do their homework.