Mor Spirit

Started by SoCalMan2, May 03, 2016, 09:10:31 AM

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SoCalMan2

Why isn\'t this horse the horse?

He ran a huge fig as a two year old. Came back to the huge fig with trouble.  Is ready to finally move forward in the Derby.  Forget about the question of Exaggerator and track condition; isn\'t it obvious this horse hates wet tracks?  Get rid of his wet track races and what has he done wrong?  

If he pairs up the fig he ran as a two year old or the fig two races back, he is already super competitive.  Couple that with Baffert pointing to the Derby, I see it as very easy to put this horse down as a minus 1 which would be extremely strong in this race.

To me, if he fires a big fig, only real risk is that Danzig Candy might get away with a wire job.

So, Mor Spirit to win and place and boxed with Danzig Candy.

Easy Game.

jp702006

Shhh.....you may be killing my odds:)

SoCalMan2

jp702006 Wrote:
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> Shhh.....you may be killing my odds:)


Pikers on the internet don\'t impact Derby odds....if anything, it scares the smart money off when pikers like what they like.

SoCalMan2

SoCalMan2 Wrote:
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> jp702006 Wrote:
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> > Shhh.....you may be killing my odds:)
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> Pikers on the internet don\'t impact Derby
> odds....if anything, it scares the smart money off
> when pikers like what they like.


Just to be clear, I was referring to myself as the piker, not you.

ajkreider

He is a must play, on figures and running style.  But I can\'t make any sense of the last two works.  Very fast early and then slow late.

Tavasco

FWIW,

From what I read both Stevens & Baffert liked the work. The horse was a little more aggressive than they were planning. Then relaxed him after 4F.

Agastache

I think you\'ll see Mor Spirit no more than 4-5 lengths off the lead down the backstretch, barring trouble and a ridiculous pace.  I think the key is whether or not they can get his rally started earlier than the 1/8 pole this time.

Gerard

FWIW,


http://www.paulickreport.com/news/triple-crown/mor-spirits-anteater-action-reminds-gary-stevens-p-indy/


One of the more followed clockers had positive comments (tweets) about the first fast work as well, a few days after the fact.

jbelfior

Not buying any positive comments about how Mor Spirit is working. In his last work at SA, rider had to hit him right handed several times on the turn to keep him from bearing out.

Not impressed with this work either. Well, at least he handled the turn better.

I have him as my hedge to Exaggerator in the pools. Zero confidence in the Mor Spirit ticket.


Good Luck,
Joe B.

SoCalMan2

jbelfior Wrote:
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> Not buying any positive comments about how Mor
> Spirit is working. In his last work at SA, rider
> had to hit him right handed several times on the
> turn to keep him from bearing out.
>
> Not impressed with this work either. Well, at
> least he handled the turn better.
>
> I have him as my hedge to Exaggerator in the
> pools. Zero confidence in the Mor Spirit ticket.
>
>
> Good Luck,
> Joe B.


I thought the issue with workouts is not positive or negative...you need to be able to evaluate how the horse\'s workouts compare to his normal prior workouts.  If the sheet you are looking at was produced by prior crappy workouts, then why should new crappy workouts be an issue for today\'s race?  However, I freely admit to having no special edge in evaluating workouts.  

I will say that it sure looks like this horse does not like wet tracks, so I wouldn\'t worry about workouts on a wet track.  BTW, if he does win the Derby, and it pours at the Preakness, we may be looking at a Bee Bee Bee and Riva Ridge scenario again (called that one here first) Ka-Ching!

TGJB

Man, a Bee Bee Bee reference. Wow.
TGJB

Gerard

Hoping for some grand revelation out of the seminar, but right now I have them (EXAG/MOR)  1/2 on just about every ticket. Looking at the BB record in this race is like watching Starks shoot 3\'s and from 2012 on it\'s mostly tops and pairs of prev. tops. BODE went backwards, but still placed. Can\'t let that pass at 10-1, hopefully higher.

EXAG just looks like the light went on last race, slop/fast pace, whichever, but the three preps make it hard to see him not pairing or better.

FrankD.

That was one year before Rezlegal and I started going to the Spa and this year will be 44 for both of us!!!!!!!

rezlegal

Happy Anniversary to us both- Desert Vixen,Braulio  Baeza and Tommy Root at my first Alabama- in the slop after a thunderstorm. It takes a special, read sick, kind of mind to remember that. And guys wore seersucker in the box seats. Looking forward.Good luck to all this weekend- a bragging rights weekend.

SoCalMan2

TGJB Wrote:
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> Man, a Bee Bee Bee reference. Wow.


Was really meaning to equate Riva Ridge and Mor Spirit, but Mor Spirit needs to win Derby first and then it needs to rain for the Preakness......however, Bee Bee Bee seemed an easy shorthand way to get the point across.  

Of course, you need to figure out who will be No Le Hace to have the exacta in both races (not that there was an exacta in 1972).....which reminds me....when exotic bets first came into being, I remember the minimums being crazy high.....I think the first exacta I ever bet was a $5 exacta because that was the minimum for the wager....when you had to bet so much on a combo it made you think long and hard before boxing etc. Also, at first, they did not have box windows....you had to punch out (and in those machines it was punched) all six combos if you wanted a box.....windows where you could buy a box were a big step forward....all of this to bring me around to ask....does anybody know if they are going to allow dime supers on the derby or not?