American Pharoah will run in the Travers

[ringato3]

Frank,

Since it isnt really relevant to what I bet on Saturday, we will agree to disagree.

Different reads of the same horses is part of what makes the game complex and intriguing.

Not that it makes me right, but TGJB talked about upstart having the best sheet of any 2 year old in years, including rachel.

Not that it makes u right, but the horrid derby and weak haskell support your view.

Rob

[bellsbendboy]

Frank have never been bored in Cincinnati, yet have to comment on your microwave handicapping approach/analysis with the 3yo Upstart!  You write that after earning about a half a million in four juvenile efforts the horse needs a break.  No argument from anyone.  The Flatter colt got nearly a hundred days off... (a strong Ky. derby \'cappin tenet, fwiw). Blame the trainer. baloney.

Then derby fever!!  Really Frank, finishing second in the florida derby, fast, accomplished, never off the board, averaging some $140K a heat and bred long on long!  If the owners/connections do not get derby fever they have no pulse.

The only redeeming positive from this post Frank is that you have taken the wrong side of the argument, and out-articulated another poster on the correct  side of the debate!  Apparently, the power of panache trumps the prattle in parenthesis!

Lastly, sincerely appreciate both your efforts to put your collective handles on this sophomore prospect.  Yet reluctant (not that either of you care) to give you much more than a passing grade for your efforts.  I suspect others would grade you higher, but since Upstart is a relatively well known individual, I affirm my opinion by your remarkable omissions.

There is no mention in either opinion about the shins when he went to the Wootens, taking ten months to graduate, double the average.  No mention of the early year infection in either posts, yet it was front page news!  Took the trainer  (assertion: he is top shelf) and some of the top vets in the world three weeks to IDENTIFY the virus!!  Finally, the bill payer for this forum who trades data for dollars, successfully converted the former into the latter, to a previous customer and very solid players\' in this sport.  Not to bust your chumps gentleman, just seemed a bit quick cooked capping.  bbb

[TGJB]

You deserve everything you get here, and will get.

[FrankD.]

He asked for it:

BBB,

Perhaps you should consider changing your screen name, something to reflect your countless assertions that you continue to try and pass off as factual in all their pomp and circumstance?

The Hans Christian Andersen tale of The Emperor\'s New Clothes immediately comes to mind. For those whom are unfamiliar or haven\'t read it since childhood please read below.

Plot[edit]
A vain Emperor who cares about nothing except wearing and displaying clothes hires two swindlers who promise him the finest, best suit of clothes from a fabric invisible to anyone who is unfit for his position or \"hopelessly stupid\". The Emperor\'s ministers cannot see the clothing themselves, but pretend that they can for fear of appearing unfit for their positions and the Emperor does the same. Finally the swindlers report that the suit is finished, they mime dressing him and the Emperor marches in procession before his subjects. The townsfolk play along with the pretense, not wanting to appear unfit for their positions or stupid. Then a child in the crowd, too young to understand the desirability of keeping up the pretense, blurts out that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all and the cry is taken up by others. The Emperor cringes, suspects the assertion is true, but continues the procession.

Frank D.

[ringato3]

BBB,

I thought I knew u, now I am sure I do. I remember u clearly now.   U were the kid whose lunch money I took every day through high school.   U sat in the back of the room, picking your nose, and turning away any time a pretty girl walked into the room.

But u hoped back then that someday the Internet would be invented, so u could anonymously post arrogant assertions, making believe you are smarter than everybody else.  And people would be impressed.   Your hopes ALMOST came true.   All except the the people being impressed part.

I speak for all microwave handicappers thorough out the world, when I say we can only hope to be as smart and brilliant as you are.....

Not.

Rob