Derby - let's get to it

Started by shanahan, April 21, 2008, 05:42:09 AM

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sekrah

Love Smooth Air as well, Got 90-1 locked in on him, very happy about that.

I have a strong hunch we\'re going to see some blistering fractions in this Derby to foil Big Brown.

Of all the Derby contenders I haven\'t seen any with a consistant move to pass horses around the final turn like Smooth Air has.

miff

\"Problem is that in his fast race he had a perfect pace setup for his big late run\"



.... and only got his last quarter in app 25.1 ...woop dee doo!His connections did say he is a very light framed horse that needs time. Also the bail out by Alvarado is suspicious as no jock gives up a live derby mount with a shot.


Mike
miff

Uncle Buck

Big Brown ON TOP!
These One\'s Underneath in exacta\'s tri\'s and a little super action:
Smooth Air
Pyro
Colonel John
Adriano
Gayego
Z Fortune
Court Vision
Visionaire

Here\'s the play:
$200 WP on BB - $400
$20 Exacta - $160
$4 reverse exacta with Brown underneath - $24
$1 tri w/BB on top - $56
another time - $56
$1 tri w/BB in middle - $56
$1 super w/BB on top - $336

Total Damage: $1,088

smalltimer

Uncle,
Whaddaya doin\', shopping at the grocery store?  Just kidding.  Good luck.

Michael D.

fkach Wrote:
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> If I was considering betting Denis of Cork I would
> be a lot more worried about whether he has enough
> ability to win and whether he\'ll get enough pace
> to run at in the Derby (now that War Pass is out)
> than his performance in the Illinois Derby.
>
> The Ill Derby is a total toss. The pace came up
> slow and the horses went 1-2-3-4-5 right around
> the track.
>
> http://www.drf.com/row/charts/08HAWillinoisderby_c
> hart.pdf
>
> The problem is that in his fast race he had a
> perfect pace setup for his big late run.
>
> http://www.drf.com/row/charts/08OPsouthwest_chart.
> pdf
>
> He may never have been as good as he looked off
> that race. He\'s a nice horse, but IMO he\'s very
> misunderstood at present. He\'s not as good as he
> looks and not as bad as he looks all at the same
> time. ;-)





it\'s no secret now that he\'s a one run colt that prefers pace. if you had seen this before the Southwest, you had an $11.60 horse:


Michael D. Wrote:
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> 8 Denis of Cork -
>
> very nice \'5.5\' 1st out, closing 4 wide into a
> fast pace. got stuck behind a slow pace last while
> 4w/4w over an off track.
>
> gets pace here, and should get a dry track.
>
> wide trip the risk, but odds should be decent.
>
>
>
> Denis of Cork the key, use He\'s Eze and Turf War.

Chuckles_the_Clown2

I can\'t remember if Go For Gin ran at Calder, but Lil E Tee was a Calder based horse snapped up by the late Cal Partee and Lynn Whiting. I loved him from the moment I saw him run. I might have gotten a little lucky in the Derby with him due to A.P. Indy\'s defection, but I was gonna bet Lil E. Tee regardless.

richiebee Wrote:
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> Shanno-
>
> After a pokey mile work (1:41), SA came back and
> worked 7f in 1:25 and will be
> shipped to Churchill...
>
> The Downey Profile gives a fairly comprehensive
> day to day description of the
> various Derby contenders\' comings and goings.
>
> The last Calder based horse to win the Derby
> was...?

Chuckles_the_Clown2

If you don\'t factor him, I sure hope you don\'t want him to run big.

TGJB Wrote:
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> I don\'t know how I\'m going to play the Derby yet,
> it\'s an interesting betting race, and I don\'t know
> what I\'m going to do with DOC. But that aside, I
> really hope he runs well just to stick it to those
> in the press (and elsewhere) who thought the
> connections made a mistake by giving the horse
> extra time after his big top. Yeah, he bounced in
> Illinois-- he was supposed to. If they ran him
> back quicker, he might have bounced worse, and not
> come out of the race okay. In the long run, that
> extra 3 weeks may have saved this horse\'s career,
> or at least his 3yo season.
>
> The racing year doesn\'t end the first Saturday in
> May. It begins then.
>
> Anybody know if the Win Star horses will be
> coupled?