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[davidrex]

   set me straight...thought the D.I. was put to rest years ago when it was found that by adjusting the index AFTER the 3yr old campaign of a derby caliber horse just about all bloodlines fit under the max.# allowed.

   what have they added to the recipe in order to use as a tool to predict bloodline dosage BEFORE the derby and late summer grade 1\'s?


            thanx in advance,

        PARTYpokerON

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

> Chuckles_the_Clown2 wrote:
>
> > Greater Good may not want big ground, but his Ark was not his
> > race. He came unglued in the infield, washed out, rushed
> > up...went wide...it was a horror trip.

hossgnat wrote:
> All true, and it looked like McKee used him right out of the
> gate to try to get position going into the first turn, failing
> miserably to do so.
>
> I may be delusional due to my future wagers on GG, but I think
> he\'s much better than what he showed in the Ark Derby, although
> he wouldn\'t have gotten to AA that day.
>
> Should he run for the roses, and it looks like he will, a
> definite longshot to be sure.  But if half the field is on the
> pace and the pace collapses, who knows.
>
 I\'m not so sure McKee sent him. McKee is a decent Jock and he had to figure taking him in to save ground was the key to that hole.  I think GG sent himself. That he was unnerved by the Crowd and saddling outside. I thought he\'d move forward to about a 1 or 2 and we\'d get a chance to evaluate his distance potential. All that went up in nerves. Now if you got him in the Derby, you have to hope he keeps his head and moves forward large. Still he closed slightly, was only beaten four lengths for second and never gave up on that horror trip and washout. This trainer brings horses from off pace like this, but you\'re sitting on a horse with a chance in my estimation. Mostly it depends on his head I think.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

davidrex wrote:

>
>
>    set me straight...thought the D.I. was put to rest years ago
> when it was found that by adjusting the index AFTER the 3yr old
> campaign of a derby caliber horse just about all bloodlines fit
> under the max.# allowed.
>
>    what have they added to the recipe in order to use as a tool
> to predict bloodline dosage BEFORE the derby and late summer
> grade 1\'s?
>
>
>             thanx in advance,
>
>         PARTYpokerON


Its all hoodoo dave, always was, but the last three of four derby winners put it to rest. Perhaps \"modern\" training too.

Blind\'s FPS and TGraphs speed is the way to go. In the next couple weeks we\'ll sit down here and look close at pedigree for that last little edge in deciding if they will move forward at 10 marks. If you got two tossup horses you separate them that way. Even then you\'re gonna be about 50 50 to guess wrong...lol  TGraph would box.

[davidrex]

thanx ctMc,

i have held basically same opinion of D.I. as ctmc[possibly worded a litle differently!] i would love to hear from alan or jerry on not only their opinion but if anything relevant to the index has been added.this appeal goes out to anyone who is current on this topic.this is in no way a smurch on ctmc..i just feel he and I are from the same time period with the same preordained predigest thoughts on the subject

                   thanx,

PARTYpokerON!

[NoCarolinaTony]

CTC,

what do you mean when you say Blind\'s FPS?
I\'ve done FPS calculations myself but was wondering if this was some type of statistical use of FPS.

NC Tony (aka Brooklyn Tony)

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

I\'ve never gotten into it in that detail. I was surprised is all. I look at pace and closing fractions and extrapolate them to a quarter is all.