Gentlemen

The Texas Rangers should be investigating Frankel and Ramsey for race fixing.

It appears to me they have both committed a felony.

This is an absurd conclusion to the Breeders Cup.

How can we; the readers of this board help to insure justice is served.

I welcome any suggestions.

This is sickening.


John Perona aka Cozzene

Distaff
Tamweel @ 15-1 close your eyes and make the bet
Indy Groove @ 20-1 whats not to like

Juvenile Fillies
Culinary @ 12-1 looks like a gift
In the Gold @ 10-1 look for Zito to have a big day

Mile
Soaring Free @ 20-1 I could retire
Silver Tree @ 12-1 after the horse wins you will say to anyone who will listen \"How could a Bill Mott horse go off at 12-1\"

Sprint
Kela @ 8-1 i\'ll take the chance Mitchell goes undetected
ChampAli @ 12-1 just like his namesake a winner


Filly & Mare Turf
Ouija Board something just points to this horse

Juvenile
Sun King @ 8-1 Louis was never 8-1 in his life look for Zito to have a big day

Turf
The lock of the day; just as Buck\'s Boy at Gulfstream was a best bet because he would be on the lead and save ground going 3 turns STAR OVER THE BAY wait a minute didn\'t Buck\'s Boy lose.  Oh well we will just have to use the Breeding angle; without a doubt this horse has the best breeding of any horse racing in the BC. He will be a price just like Tikanen and Alphabet Soup.  Bet him and go home a winner.

Classic
Birdstone @ 6-1 he may not be as fast as the Ghost but unlike Frankel look for Zito to have a big day

Thanks

Cozzene

TGJB

My take on the article was that it implied something else.

Cozzene

TGJB

Why are horses medicated to workout?

Thanks

Cozzene

Gentlemen

Bit Player makes sense to me.

Furthermore it doesn\'t matter if he is right but only that I believe he is right.

Lower takeouts for all.  No drugs.

Level the playing field or the game dies.

Cozzene

OPM

I play online everyday and weekly in a live game; the average age is probably about 25.

I am 42 and am usually one of the oldest people in the house.

The live game attracts about 150 people and is a $250 buyin + $50 for food and booze.

If you can attract 150 people, 140 of which lose $300 and go away happy; that is truely amazing.  Where did horseracing go so wrong.

Thank You

Cozzene



Post Edited (09-22-04 00:55)

Gentlemen

I recently posted a reply to the discussion on drugged horses.

The reply to this issue is the same; Pacific Poker, Ultimate Bet, Party Poker.

The only thing the horse racing industry understands is a sledgehammer.  Take away your action, stop betting on horses.

If the handle drops enough positive changes will be made or the industry dies.  If the game is fixed by the fact and no changes are made then it deserves to die.

Personally I have made it to MTH only twice all summer.  I used to go at least twice a week.  

Vote for change by boycotting wagering on horses.

Thank You

Cozzene

Gentlemen

Pacific Poker, Ultimate Bet, Party Poker.

Maybe Texas Hold\'Em is the answer.

Thanks

Cozzene

Kev

Is it the needdle or the spoon?

For a trip to the moon. Come take me away.


Cozzene

Gentlemen

I love Ghost Zapper and I love Monmouth and I love Lone Star.

But TGJB\'s point about Mr Frankel and the BC when the \"whole\" world is watching is the most important comment.

We all know the Ghost gets a little \"help\" but will he get \"it\" on BC day.

Your Friend who never got a little help

Cozzene

Yo Mall

You are funny.  \"A brohamer model\" \"I will compare MTH to PHA\"; I think you have to much time on your hands.

Read the post, close your eyes, and make the bet.

I always liked Pie. Pecan, Key Lime, Pumpkin, Cherry, and now Prospect.

Your Friend

Cozzene

TGJB

Please do get started.  I like Thoro-Graph better because I think you and your company are much more customer oriented and much more user friendly.

The difference in your numbers I cannot quantify.  But I can quantify easier access a better value and a more user friendly format.

Bring back the big black dot it helped.

Thanks Again

Cozzene

Gentlemen

It is Pie\'s Prospect at a big price.

Forget the pace scenario, forget the traditional handicapping.

Close your eyes and make the bet.

Key him in your tri\'s, play him to win, and lets take home half the track.  

Your Friend

Cozzene

TGJB

Shouldn\'t it be the devout communist who gives away product to celebrate Labor Day?

Thanks for the freebie.

Cozzene

Gentlemen

My first experience at the racetrack was in 1973.  

Between 1973 and 1997 I read every book I could about betting on Thorobreds.

Unfortunately, I was also in the red every year.  Sometimes I made a big score, but usually I lost.  If Cozzene or one of his children were running I had a good day.  Tikkanen on BC day was one of my best hits of all time.

However every thing changed in 1998 I discovered speed figures.  I have not had a losing year since.

Pace as a indicator of energy expelled can\'t be.  It is impossible to quantify.  

Angles which angle?  It is easy after the race.  Very hard when you are forced to choose between angles before post.

Class; quantify it mathimatically.

Final time, ground loss, and weight are all objective.  They can all be quantified mathimatically.

The advantage of accurate speed figures is that over time the faster horses will finish ahead of the slower horses.  Betting the faster horses will over time show a profit.
Questions arise about betting strategies; about a year ago I asked some questions that I already knew the answers to; I wanted to see what the response was, suffice to say some people who post here really get it, they play tri\'s and super\'s where speed figures are most valuble and traditional methods most useless and leave the win position to the traditionalists.

If this helps great, if not thats OK.

Your Friend

Cozzene



Post Edited (08-29-04 08:50)