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[Boscar Obarra]

miff said

\"The leading trainer in NY for many years told me to my face, 7 years ago, that the game has become a \"VET\" game and it was time to get out, he did.\"

  I think I know who you mean, and didn\'t he also have a rep for moving them up pretty dramatically?  Maybe the vet moved on, or he didn\'t want to share the wealth.

  An ex harness trainer turned pro flats horseplayer that I knew 30 years ago, said pretty much the same thing. Juice.  He used to watch them warmup and load into the gate with very high powered binocs, not sure what he was seeing, but there was something.

[cozzene]

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Cozzene

[SJU5]

IMO One reason that the juicers don\'t do as well as their home tracks is that NY State Racing Board Investigators from Albany are there IN FORCE undercover walking around the barn areas looking for certain vets at certain barns...this does not go on at Aqu or Bel as it does at SAR.

And the barn access at SAR is much looser than at AQU and BEL during their 6 week summer meet. Trainers don\'t know who is watching them or their vets and it\'s more open to public eyes than the concrete stalls at AQU or the more private barns at Belmont!