I was at the track last night as well, and the speed definitely did not hold up. Betting slow paced long shots would have paid off last night.

He partially owns Goldencents.

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I can\'t see mylute better than 20-1. Personally I like mylute and will have him on 1 of my tickets. ...but... if he went off any less than 15-1 I wouldnt even bother.

Ran OK in the Kentucky Jockey club, but has been less impressive since then. Did get second in the Ark Derby behind overanalyzed, but I'm still not sold on overanalyzed as the contender that some feel him to be.

To my eyes, this horse has some excellent navigational abilities and I think Calvin has just as much skill at navigating as anyone you can name. Personally I see it would be hard for this horse to finish worse then 4th.

Good luck to everyone!  I love Gem to, and have him on both my supers!

BB Wrote:
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> NYRA was slow but not too bad. Just now was able
> to get a download of today\'s bets, after not being
> able to do that for a while.


Me too man... finally got \'todays bets\' to load, and confirmed all my picks. Now I am happy and ready for DERBY!

I hate to say it, but I have other people here at my house making bets on TVG with zero problems. Twinspires did this same thing to me the year of Big Brown... so after having this happen I can safely say that I will be switching to TVG after today.

Yeah, its screwed for me right now. It took all my bets and deducted the money from my account, but when I try to \'recall todays bets\' to confirm... it times out.

I know that last year was $1 minimum, so this is pretty standard.

phil23 Wrote:
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> Yep, I kind of feel insane even suggesting it.
> Just getting freaked out by what his price could
> be.


Don\'t feel to crazy. A friend and I each make a superfecta bet every year, and then we split the winnings when we hit.  Well this year he has Trinni on his ticket because of the odds. It is completely silly, but it was his ticket that hit last year so I\'m not going to judge. :-)

I am ok with TCI and this post position, and plan to have him somewhere on my super ticket. If anyone can make this work, its Borel. (and personally I don\'t even like Borel)