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#1
Ask the Experts / MLB and NFL already lost the same suit
December 04, 2015, 03:19:16 PM
Stronach does not own the results.

This has already been tried twice and twice the courts ruled that the results are news and therefore public property.

MLB was this:
 Baseball and its players have no right to prevent the use of names and playing records, U.S. District Court Judge Mary Ann Medler in St. Louis ruled in a 49-page summary judgment.

 St. Louis-based CBC Distribution and Marketing Inc. filed a lawsuit against Major League Baseball Advanced Media, MLB\'s Internet wing, after CBC was denied a new licensing agreement with the baseball players\' association giving it the rights to player
 profiles and statistics.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2543720

nfl:
 Yahoo has filed a lawsuit against the National Football League demanding access to player stats without having to pay licensing fees. Yahoo argues that player names, bios, and game statistics are not copyrightable information owned by the NFL, and that third parties should be able to make use of it for fantasy football leagues. Given a 2007 ruling on the same topic for Major League Baseball, there\'s a good chance that Yahoo will end up taking home the win.

 and they actually beat the NFL in a court room.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...stats-lawsuit/


-1 to all the industry stooges lined up double wide to support the industry that has done nothing but crap on their heads.


and this has nada to do with pro or anti dfs-
I\'ve been railing for years elsewhere of the NTRA Dodge the Take Out contest tour.(ironically they use the same excuse that derbywars did-contests bring new people into the sport=yea right)
#2
Ask the Experts / Re: Ramon
October 30, 2015, 03:19:15 PM
He just a great horseman while the Preciado\'s of the world use the magic go fast.

It is ridiculous, it is like coming down on AAA guys and saying oh Bonds and Sosa were just great hitters.

Liam\'s Map trumps all of Preciado\'s move up horses in his entire lifetime.

the first and third in the most evenly matched 14 horse race in the history of the sport was just icing.
#3
or at least 50% ends up going to the house-is one take away from the graphic at the link.
#4
In the first half of the 2015 MLB season, 91 percent of DFS player profits were won by just 1.3 percent of players.

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2015/07/27/Opinion/From-the-Field-of-Fantasy-Sports.aspx?hl=1.3%25&sc=0
#5
Ask the Experts / Re: Survey says..............
September 12, 2015, 09:43:52 AM
BTW 8% is the magic number-

IGT the world\'s largest slot machine manufacturer figured out 8% take out in slots maximizes slot income and I don\'t see why racing handle would be any different.
#6
Ask the Experts / Survey says..............
September 12, 2015, 09:28:16 AM
both sides are correct.

1)We surveyed over 100 online sportsbettors and poker players that were willfully breaking the law why not bet on fully lawful horse racing?  The number one answer by far and away was take out.

2)Something that has 1000outcomes at 25% is going to yield more posev bets than binomials at 4.5%.


So these kids may be smart enough to know 20% is higher than 10% is higher than 4.5% but they\'re clueless beyond the nominal take out.


Furthermore it is naïve believing that the ever expanding online handle on horse races is coming from the same crowd that still buys paper racing forms.


Even furthermore, take out is not linear, this is game theory-if they dropped the take out 10%-Dana, Wagner, Elite, zjelko etc....are going to realize most of that, not many folks are going to find racing any easier despite the nominal take out being significantly less-don\'t believe me-look at sports-
same guys who beat -110 into submission previously, are same guys beating -105 now with obviously a few exceptions.  
Cutting the take out in half from 4.5% to 2.25% has not resulted in a whole lot of change in who is winning and who is losing.




also, it should be noted, contrary to the hysterics, the states with legal online poker have found that the typical online poker player is a BRAND, NEW customer.
#7
Ask the Experts / Thursday not tomorrow
January 27, 2015, 11:23:26 AM
I got the days mixed up.
#8
decimating another card and resulting in a potential match race.

Can\'t wait to see the -500/+120 on a two way proposition.
#9
Ask the Experts / Two other random NYRA complaints
January 25, 2015, 10:28:36 AM
1)It is ridiculous that the beautiful online HD platform is restricted to NYRA rewards/roku or wtf ever.  They\'re basically not showing their best signal to the bulk of their customers-it is ludicrous.

2)NYRA rewards have the highest rebates-isn\'t that a violation of the commerce clause of the constitution that insures against economic discrimination merely because someone is in or out of state?  I could be way off base here but I thought that was the nuts of the interstate commerce clause?
#10
Ask the Experts / No one at NYRA can count to 14?
January 25, 2015, 10:17:08 AM
Eight late scratches today decimating the card because no one can count to 14 at NYRA?

I have never seen data to support this rule and when I looked for evidence of over racing in denigrated performances, I had to go out to 10 races in 90 days which happens extremely infrequently.

Didn\'t a horse win by 35 or something recently too basically forcing the rest of the field to \"qualify\" via workout?

Why license people if the state is going to usurp the decision making?
#11
LMAO
#12
oh it is laughable.

Look at Lake, guy stole and lost millions from him,
everyone around him virtually dead broke

and here a guy where obviously inside injury information should obviously give them an edge and yet it obviously didn\'t.

the prices are the form objectified to the nth degree-if inside injuries etc were so crucial-the form aka Zjelko, Dana et al could not use computer programs to make millions.

the whole tenor of \"them\" getting over with inside information injury or otherwise is laughable and if one approaches the odds board with the oh they must know something hence the animal being 2/1 and not 6/1-one has less than zero chance at this game.
#13
In addition, they are sucking the odds out of the tote system before they cycle for the public in addition to batch arbing at post time or they are raping the public at large and like with the Wall St HFTS-the tracks are in bed with these folks so don\'t expect any changes anytime soon.
#14
The horse population in HK is extremely tightly controlled and very small compared to every other jurisdiction on earth.

If you believe they are reporting everything in Australia-I have a bridge to sell.
#15
Ask the Experts / Re: Penn Racing thrown under the bus?
February 07, 2014, 12:45:12 PM
I left out that Penn and other likeminded racinos DO NOT run on most national holidays any longer.

What used to be amongst their biggest days-Mem Day, Labor Day et al any federal holiday that is recognized on Mondays will not have racing at the racinos that do not already run on Mondays.  

They\'re purposely and successfully destroying the sport.