Bruce Jenner Stakes

[metroj]

Mathcapper Wrote:
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>
> Without having handicapped the race, it\'s hard to
> say whether or not the horse\'s fair odds really
> should\'ve been 110-1, but what the exotic payouts
> imply for the winning combos is that he was around
> 50-1 in the ex pool, 6-1(!) in the tri, and 25-1
> in the super.
>
> - Rocky

From the DRF \"Ruby\", on paper, was probably a little higher than what one would expect her to go off at, lifetime best Beyer of 20, 2015 best of 9, in a race where the Beyer par for Md5000 was 29.  Full field of 12 certainly helped the odds but there were others that looked just as hopeless.  

Her stand in, Leather Slappin\', had a lifetime best Beyer of 64 and a 2015 best of 51, just an average race would put him in the mid 40 BSF range.  In other words if he breaks clean he wins.  

Same owner/trainer for both horses so it\'s hard to believe they didn\'t know the wrong horse was being saddled.

[moosepalm]

Boscar Obarra Wrote:
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 What
> kind of moron would think they could pass a
> gelding off as a filly , not only through the
> identifier, but the testing barn as well. All this
> for a 20k or 30k payday?
>


The trainer of the horse who was misidentified at Turf Paradise earlier in the year, and won, was fined $1,000 for his indiscretion.  I\'ll take 20 or 30-1 on a sure thing, any day.

It\'s silly to speculate in either direction on this, but if you\'re calling him a moron for trying to put one over on the I.D. process, which he would be, what do you call someone who can\'t tell that the horse he just saddled isn\'t the one he\'s been living with for the better part of seven days a week?

[Boscar Obarra]

Is it clear that the trainer/owner saddled the horse?

PS To answr my own question, and assuming this was accurate:

\"Owner-trainer Spiess, who sources said was not at Mahoning Valley, could not be reached for comment.\"

Sure, he was on a plane to Bolivia with his millions.

[moosepalm]

Boscar Obarra Wrote:
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> Is it clear that the trainer/owner saddled the
> horse?
>
> PS To answr my own question, and assuming this was
> accurate:
>
> \"Owner-trainer Spiess, who sources said was not at
> Mahoning Valley, could not be reached for
> comment.\"
>
> Sure, he was on a plane to Bolivia with his
> millions.


Boscar, if you\'re not a defense attorney, you missed your calling.  

I have no clue what happened here, and wouldn\'t allege anything.  I just get amused by assumptions that lead to certitude.

[Boscar Obarra]

Been told I missed my calling many times.

 And my response has been in direct opposition to the certitude displayed by the unwashed masses assuming some giant putover.

 The blind leading the clueless.

 imho

[gadspicks]

Im just curious if they are going to change the name of this race to the Caitlyn Jenner Stakes???   lol

[jp702006]

Fines and suspensions handed down for this fiasco. Trainer and unlicensed groom suspended 30 days and fined $500 each. Unlicensed assistant trainer, who saddled the horse,fined only. Horse identifier suspended 60 days and fined $500. Article is posted on Bloodhorse.