ringato3: Yes BBB,

A one turn mile well outside the scope of Bayern.

You are right.  

Rob

TGJB: The assertion guy is back!

TGJB: Everything else aside, on a more relevant note, a Baffert that ran lousy Derby weekend already came back and ran big today. And two Pletchers ran lousy in stakes already today, though that bears more watching.

ringato3: TGJB

Saw that too.   Would want to see more with Pletcher.   As your numbers showed and my eyes saw watching his first race, the uncle Vinnie was a horrendous even money shot.   Ridden hard whole race at 1-5 in awful field first out.  

Winner was tough take take at 5-2 though.  

The TG \"6\" horse ran very mediocre.  Clearly went backwards.

And hope the assertion thing wasn\'t meant for me. Try to support my views, right or wrong, with some facts!

Rob

TGJB: Not you. We have two of them here. Every time I see one of these unsupported assertions I think of Ken Kesey. In Cuckoo\'s Nest there\'s a character in the ward who goes around making assertions, like \"The walnut is Mexico\".

firmturf: I\'ve noticed that when Pletcher horses don\'t fire you see it two strides from the gate. That even money shot in the 4th was a perfect example.

RICH: heard baffert on radio yesterday on bayern, did not sound confident on him, said he usually needs a few to get going, toss for me