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Started by horsegoer, May 30, 2015, 05:25:39 AM

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Rick B.

P-Dub Wrote:
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> Favorites miss the exacta too. If a
> favorite is a poor wagering choice for the top
> spot, why on earth would you play him to complete
> an exacta??

Chronic seconditis horse comes to mind. One can
profit on quitting rats with the right bet.

Tend to disagree with the idea that favorites
create exacta underlays.

In smallish fields, sure. On top? Mebbe.

Not necessarily so in larger fields, and that goes
double for the underneath.

Venture away from those GG micro-cards and you will
see what I mean.

phil23

Fun price on Gentlemen\'s Bet with 4 mtp.

P-Dub

Rick B. Wrote:
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> P-Dub Wrote:
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> > Favorites miss the exacta too. If a
> > favorite is a poor wagering choice for the top
> > spot, why on earth would you play him to
> complete
> > an exacta??
>
> Chronic seconditis horse comes to mind. One can
> profit on quitting rats with the right bet.
>
> Tend to disagree with the idea that favorites
> create exacta underlays.
>
> In smallish fields, sure. On top? Mebbe.
>
> Not necessarily so in larger fields, and that
> goes
> double for the underneath.
>
> Venture away from those GG micro-cards and you
> will
> see what I mean.

I NEVER said don\'t play favorites. You\'re missing the point.

Favorites are underlaid in exactas more often than not.  If you disagree with this, then fine.

Yes Rick, you can find situations to play the favorite. The point is that \"just add the favorite\" isn\'t a good idea every time.

Good luck to those that arbitrarily play favorites in exactas. Those people create additional value when they run out, and its much appreciated.

I play races all over the country, rarely play GG but they do have some nice scores at times.  Just like any track.
P-Dub

ringato3

Rick

U must have made the hall of fame during the steroid era....

U live in a world where \"maybe\" the favorite is an underlay in the win slot of exacta and NOt in the second slot.

Silly post.

Moving on.

Your horse lost.....


Rob

Rick B.

P-Dub Wrote:
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> I NEVER said don\'t play favorites. You\'re missing
> the point.

And I never said arbitrarily play favorites.

The only points I am allegedly missing seem to be
coming from the things I am NOT writing.

P-Dub

Rick B. Wrote:
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> P-Dub Wrote:
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> > I NEVER said don\'t play favorites. You\'re
> missing
> > the point.
>
> And I never said arbitrarily play favorites.
>
> The only points I am allegedly missing seem to be
>
> coming from the things I am NOT writing.


You haven\'t mentioned when playing the favorite is a good idea either.
P-Dub

Lost Cause

ringato3 Wrote:
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> Rick
>
> U must have made the hall of fame during the
> steroid era....
>
> U live in a world where \"maybe\" the favorite is an
> underlay in the win slot of exacta and NOt in the
> second slot.
>
> Silly post.
>
> Moving on.
>
> Your horse lost.....
>
>
> Rob

I think you all misread Ricks post.  He never said to always include the fave.  He said that you should not just throw out a legit fave as they more often than not make it into the exotics..in which case he was right as work all week finished second

Rick B.

ringato3 Wrote:
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> Rick
>
> U must have made the hall of fame during the
> steroid era....

Yes. I was snorting Winnie with Big Brown back then.
 
> U live in a world where \"maybe\" the favorite is an
> underlay in the win slot of exacta and NOt in the
> second slot.

Yes. Are you implying that this is not possible?

> Your horse lost.....

Yes. Thanks to ROTW, I had the correct horses on top
in my saver exactas, and made a damn nice score in
spite of my horse running SECOND.

(Learn anything today, Rob? Good. You are dismissed.)

TGJB

You\'re still not getting this. But I\'m out.
TGJB

P-Dub

Rick B. Wrote:
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> Yes. Thanks to ROTW, I had the correct horses on
> top
> in my saver exactas, and made a damn nice score
> in
> spite of my horse running SECOND.
>

$2 exacta paid $16.20

I guess we all have different ideas of what a nice score is.

Agree with JB, some people don\'t get it and I\'m done with it too.
P-Dub

Rick B.

P-Dub Wrote:
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> $2 exacta paid $16.20
>
> I guess we all have different ideas of what a nice
> score is.

What, you think I had this for only a fiver or something?

I played the race correctly, to a profit. I guess I don\'t get it.

And if Work All Week didn\'t run second, you and several others
here would be jumping all over my ass.

Stop, already.

P-Dub

Rick B. Wrote:
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> P-Dub Wrote:
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> > $2 exacta paid $16.20
> >
> > I guess we all have different ideas of what a
> nice
> > score is.
>
> What, you think I had this for only a fiver or
> something?
>
> I played the race correctly, to a profit. I guess
> I don\'t get it.
>
> And if Work All Week didn\'t run second, you and
> several others
> here would be jumping all over my ass.
>
> Stop, already.


Whatever Rick, Congrats for hammering a chalk exacta.

I didn\'t know this forum was all about celebrating 7/1 exactas.

Silly me.
P-Dub

Rick B.

TGJB Wrote:
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> You\'re still not getting this. But I\'m out.

I\'ll listen, some other time when you have time.

But I am not independently wealthy, so I have
little use for academic theory that doesn\'t result
in parimutuel profits.

This business of using the favorite in lesser spots
is not something I cooked up this afternoon. For a
little bit of wagering capital, I protect and routinely
turn a slightly bad outcome into a money winner.

So...maybe I can peek ahead to the last page of the
book: is it about being exactly correct in your handicapping?

Or is it about playing to a profit?

I choose profit. I can\'t buy a damn thing with dogma.

Rick B.

P-Dub Wrote:
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> Rick B. Wrote:
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> > P-Dub Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > $2 exacta paid $16.20
> > >
> > > I guess we all have different ideas of what a
> > nice
> > > score is.
> >
> > What, you think I had this for only a fiver or
> > something?
> >
> > I played the race correctly, to a profit. I
> guess
> > I don\'t get it.
> >
> > And if Work All Week didn\'t run second, you and
> > several others
> > here would be jumping all over my ass.
> >
> > Stop, already.
>
>
> Whatever Rick, Congrats for hammering a chalk
> exacta.
>
> I didn\'t know this forum was all about celebrating
> 7/1 exactas.
>
> Silly me.

Now you are being silly. The two best horses ran 2-1,
without a sweat. Just how much *should* that pay? $20? $30?

And I am not celebrating so much as I am simply defending
myself from this \"Rob\" newbie / goober, who decided to come
out here and try to piss in my Post Toasties. Sorry, I\'m not
having it.

Jeezus.

TGJB

You have a bad habit of setting up straw men so you can knock them down. The only one who mentioned dogma was you.

That\'s the end of this conversation. You were way out of line with the goober comment. Don\'t do it again.
TGJB