I don't usually like to complain about horse stuff

[Fairmount1]

covelj70 wrote:


\"I missed Halloween last year because we were running Testa Rossi and I was trying to make it up to my kids (my youngest is 7) for the next 2 months.\"
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I\'m proud to say I never had my dad ever \"making up\" for anything during my childhood.  He was the boss and complaining and whining never achieved any success with him---just as it doesn\'t in the racing industry.  

I\'m curious if others on the board had a dad that \"made up\" for things because I highly doubt it.

[Coronado98]

IIRC, a few of the early installments of the Breeders\' Cup were held in mid to late November.  Seeing how the organizers for the Breeders\' Cup have had a love of going to Santa Anita, why not have it in the last week of December?  Crap bowl games and week 17 of the NFL are the only competition.

I\'m going to miss those late posts at the spa, either get out from work and catch a full card at the simulcast from Belmont or if I\'m up there I can sleep in even later.

[Bigredgoer]

Jim.
Could not agree with you more, if you think Halloween is an issue , try having your Anniversary fall on that weekend.··It has always been my cross to bear, and somehow I`ve been able to disguise a romantic weekend away to Cali, or on a few occasions Vegas.
If you can organize a movement to get the BC dates changed WHERE CAN I SIGN UP!!!!!!!

[Silver Charm]

Down here in Florida and South Beach in particular Halloween is lasting almost a month now. I really have forgotten what day its is.....

They ran the Breeders Cup one year at old Hollywood Park on about the 2nd or 3rd week in November. It was kind of a disaster. All the 2YO were broke down the following season. Champion Forty Niner didn\'t even ship and run. There was a point where TV called a lot of the shots and Notre Dame football was even on influence!! Tough Call on this one!!

[Coronado98]

Re: juveniles

As opposed to now?  Shanghai Bobby and New Year\'s Day weren\'t exactly monster iron horses after their respective victories in that race.  Street Sense was the only one to prosper after a BC Juvy win in the last decade IIRC.

[Topcat]

covelj70 Wrote:
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> because there are enough people that do that
> already but how hard would it be to move the
> Breeders Cup away from Halloween?
>
> The first thing anyone ever laments about in horse
> racing is that \"there aren\'t enough young people
> in the game\"
>
> so what does the brain trust in charge of the
> Breeders Cup do?  They schedule the biggest event
> of the year on a day that makes it very difficult
> for parents of young children (i.e. the \"young
> people the game wants to attract\") to attend the
> event.


Yes, it\'s terribly awkward for those caught in the crosshairs . . . but given the prevailing traditonal state of the racing calendar and the usual timing of the lead-in races, it\'s the fairest weekend of the year to stage the thing.   Thank God there are more midweek Halloweens than Fri/Sat ones . . .
>
> I missed Halloween last year because we were
> running Testa Rossi and I was trying to make it up
> to my kids (my youngest is 7) for the next 2
> months.
>
> I haven\'t missed attending a Breeders Cup live in
> 10 years but I will miss the next 2 because of
> moronic scheduling
>
> There\'s no way I can miss another Halloween this
> year to go to Santa Anita and then the geniuses
> schedule it for Halloweeen again in 2015?
>
> I mean, come on fellas, this stuff isn\'t hard.
>
> I don\'t care how old/disconnected/aloof, etc you
> are, it\'s just not that hard to get this stuff
> right.
>
> Meanwhile, new NYRA racing secretary is onto alot
> of great ideas.  Fewwer but higher quality races
> at the spa, no twightlight racing because it takes
> away from local merchants business, letting other
> tracks know post times ahead of time so big races
> aren\'t scheduled on top of one another.
>
> All it takes is a little common sense to fix some
> of the issues that racing has.  There are other
> issues that are harder to fix but at least let\'s
> get the easy ones right.
>
> New NYRA racing secretary is doing it, Breeders
> Cup board isn\'t.

[Silver Charm]

None of the Euros came over for that late date either. Or very few really good ones at least.

[Ollie]

Nothing simpler than removing an idiot, that puts everyone in danger, and thoroughly \"enhances everyone\'s guest experience\", right?

http://www.gaming.ny.gov/pdf/07.02.14.RFACNYRA.pdf

[miff]

NYRA top management continues to be generally incompetent.Still out of touch with the regular players in the game. With roughly one year to go before Gov Cuomo decides what to do with NY racing, NYRA still wandering aimlessly.Albany peeps say Cuomo has recently softened on racing.

With no private takers of NY racing on the horizon, it seems NY racing will revert back to some form of franchising by the state with NYRA given some kind of long term deal to run it....same old same old.

New NYRA racing secretary Marty Panza doing a much better job than his predecessor with the condition book,seems to have a good plan.

[Boscar Obarra]

my memory fades, but I never remember being so horrified as those that attended this Belmont Day.

 have they actually gone backwards over the last 40 years?

[magicnight]

Not sure things have gone backwards, but they sure haven\'t improved any since I\'ve been going to the big days (25 years). Of course, expectations are higher than they were 30 or 40 years ago. Used to be you were happy if you didn\'t get mugged when you went out in NY, and anything extra was gravy. Not so at today\'s prices.

[Boscar Obarra]

I was around before that, and like I say, maybe those brain cells are dead, but other than it being crowded, I don\'t recall complaints of unbearable conditions.

[Bet Twice]

I was there this year and while I experienced most of the issues described I considered them annoyances to an otherwise amazing day of racing.  That said, I was with a group of guys and our needs are simple - I don\'t think my wife and kids would have the same outlook.

[Niall]

Any takers on moving this in another direction? Namely the great race card on Saturday. For us, this is the fan experience we want. Lets talk racing these are some nice Euros here. Havent handicapped yet, but will try and look for replays from FR, GB, IRE and comment... Happy Independence all, have fun be safe

[magicnight]

My take on Stars & Stripes Day, Martin Panza, and NYRA\'s pricing schemes.

http://around2turns.com/2014/07/08/another-spoiled-rotten-new-york-horseplayer-chimes-in/